Hate of Mankind??

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Kiju

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I'm not sure if I can truly say I don't hate humanity.

It has many flaws, most of which are greed, selfishness, hatred, fear of the unknown, and a lot of ego problems.

I believe for me it can be summed up in the fact that, as a whole, I do not like humanity, and believe the world would be better off without us. All of us. However, humanity has also accomplished a great many wonderful and miraculous things in our evolutions. I wouldn't say that humanity's good points outweigh the bad ones, but I don't believe we are beyond redemption (in a non-religious way). There's hope for us yet, but we most assuredly aren't quite there.

...and I'm not entirely certain we'll reach that point until it is too late to make any difference.
 

Blatherscythe

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I hate the greedy, corrupt and moraless assholes in power, but I like the well meaning, hard working and caring ones. I hate religious fanaticals who will kill, spread intolernce and attack others in the name of God, but like the tolerant ones, even if they're hipocrites. I hate idiots who do stupid things and endanger others with their antics, but I like people who do smart things to better everything around them. I hate racist assholes, but I like people who are tolerant and try to look past skin color and beliefs. I hate mass murderers and killers, but I like those who ensure they're captured and punished. I cannot say I hate humanity, only an idiot says that and even then they don't mean it. I can only say I hate some people, I have no reason to hate every man, woman and child on this planet. In fact, I like people when I get to know them, I hate those that harrass me without even taking a chance to know me, but fuck them.
 

molesgallus

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VegetaPrinceofSaiyans said:
I actually find a human's ability to exhibit compassion for one another to be a fundamental flaw of our species.

For example

Our education system is the primary way that we are brought up through childhood and it is how we are trained to become a productive member of society. If someone struggles in the education system, we devote resources to them because we feel bad that they might become a failure and we attempt to ensure that they make something of themselves one day. As far as I see it, these actions weaken humanity as a species.

If a lion can not adequately capture and kill prey, it starves to death. The other lions do not try to help it. The other lions realize that the starving lion's inferior genes would be a determent to their species as a whole and they realize that one less lion would result in less competition among themselves for needed resources.

Humans do everything backwards, instead of letting the inferior ones die off and allowing the inferior genes to be purged from the gene pool thus allowing us to free up more resources for the use of successful humans, we actually devote EXTRA RESOURCES in an attempt to help the failures not seem so pathetic, thus weakening us as a whole.

If humans would ignore the compassion that we have been taught to feel and actually operate in a more animalistic fashion I for one believe that we would be stronger as a species and have the ability to achieve so much more without fear of destroying our planet in the process.
I don't know where to begin, this is a heavily flawed argument.

A list;
-It's the cohesion that is responsible for all man's great achievements. No one man could produce what we have produced as a collective entity. Modern technology is a brilliant example. No one person k how to construct a computer, or a house. Almost nothing we produce could be achieved without societal cohesion. Killing off members of our society, on arbitrary measure of 'fitness' would not help this cohesion at all.
-The 'fitness' of a member would be arbitrarily defined. If something were categorically provable to be a result of genetic fitness, we would resort to genetic engineering, and remove the gene entirely. However, that might cause a lot of entirely unforeseen problems. Maybe the 'not academically successful' gene, is resposnible for creative intelligence, or protects against some deadly disease.
-We retain the ability to treat extra-tribal humans in the disgusting manner you suggest. That, in itself is a direct example of genetic selection.
-'Facism' is the common descriptor of the system you suggest.
-Lions are about to disappear off the face of the planet, at our hands. We are the most succesful of the species; with our 'morals'.
 

Housebroken Lunatic

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VegetaPrinceofSaiyans said:
I actually find a human's ability to exhibit compassion for one another to be a fundamental flaw of our species.

For example

Our education system is the primary way that we are brought up through childhood and it is how we are trained to become a productive member of society. If someone struggles in the education system, we devote resources to them because we feel bad that they might become a failure and we attempt to ensure that they make something of themselves one day. As far as I see it, these actions weaken humanity as a species.

If a lion can not adequately capture and kill prey, it starves to death. The other lions do not try to help it. The other lions realize that the starving lion's inferior genes would be a determent to their species as a whole and they realize that one less lion would result in less competition among themselves for needed resources.

Humans do everything backwards, instead of letting the inferior ones die off and allowing the inferior genes to be purged from the gene pool thus allowing us to free up more resources for the use of successful humans, we actually devote EXTRA RESOURCES in an attempt to help the failures not seem so pathetic, thus weakening us as a whole.

If humans would ignore the compassion that we have been taught to feel and actually operate in a more animalistic fashion I for one believe that we would be stronger as a species and have the ability to achieve so much more without fear of destroying our planet in the process.
Uh there's an inherent flaw in your argument there, and that is the current existence of medical science.

If man didn't have any compassion at all, then man wouldn't have had any need for medical science, becase man would just let other humans die of disease and injury (I mean clearly they are of inferior genes because they got themselves injured or sick, thus it is only appropriate that no one lifts a finger to try and make these people better).

Coincidentally the advances in medical science has in turn made gigantic leaps towards insuring mankinds survival in ways that eugenics and simple "survival of the strongest" mentality never could have.

So consider your argument crushed...
 

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VegetaPrinceofSaiyans said:
If a lion can not adequately capture and kill prey, it starves to death. The other lions do not try to help it. The other lions realize that the starving lion's inferior genes would be a determent to their species as a whole and they realize that one less lion would result in less competition among themselves for needed resources.

Humans do everything backwards, instead of letting the inferior ones die off and allowing the inferior genes to be purged from the gene pool thus allowing us to free up more resources for the use of successful humans, we actually devote EXTRA RESOURCES in an attempt to help the failures not seem so pathetic, thus weakening us as a whole.
When humans developed true sentience this mode of thinking faltered, and when we developed the means of production it became obsolete. Yes, the departure from Darwinian evolution has some overall costs. Two things, however, are to be noted.

1)Darwinian theory is not obsolete. Many examples show how humans still act on degrees of primal instinct.

2)The value of a person is no longer defined in animalistic terms. A human with a terminal illness may still provide much to the world. Should we let that person die because it is more immediately cost effective, with no heed to the future or long term effects?

Also, a word of caution to anyone who supports the idea of "letting nature sort 'em out": You may well find yourself on the shit end of that stick. Be it a selection based on physical demands, mental, intellectual, emotional, everyone could stand to be a little less sure of themselves, and accept that maybe a social conscious is better for them than not having one.
 

Nouw

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Nouw said:
I'd post the good ones but at the risk of Mod Wrath I will not.
Would this be an inappropriate time to say:




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EDIT: I just noticed a scary similarity between that picture and my own avatar. XD
No it wouldn't XD. It involves the Finger and Somebody's Mother
 

Riccan

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Misanphropy is like many other things in that there are, for lack of a better word, posers. Saying you hate humanity because you weren't hugged enough or because someone was mean to you isn't being misanthropic, it is being childish. People who actually look at humanity as a whole, from all possible angles, and think that it is truelly unsavable are misanthopes. This is still an opinion though, as is that humanity will prevail and advance. This is why I find it bizzare how people seem to believe that they are right on something subjective and declare their own idea of hatred on someone for not thinking same way.
 

PrototypeC

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It's a pretty heavy teen angst thing, but keeping in mind that quite a few of the people on the Escapist forums are nerds who want to believe they are the one competent person in the world and that's why they can't get a date and spend their days alone. I should know, I was one! It's something like a continuation of the teen angst forever.

I call these people misanthropes.
(This is not nerds in general, just a specific kind of nerd that haunt internet forums)
 

Lyri

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gundargundar said:
I'm pretty sure this is search bar approved, but

Why all the hate for humanity on this website?
I know that its everywhere on the internet, but in the past few days I've seen it everywhere here! Like every other thread someone posts about how humans are cockroaches!
It wasn't so bad until I stumbled upon "the box" thread about killing a stranger for a million bucks. And the majority said they would do it happily? Sorry, but WHAT THE FUCK. I don't know, but it's just kind of depressing, you know?

So other internet people, how do you feel about this, or maybe somebody can explain to me why they hate humanity so, so much.
Internet tough guy syndrome.

None of these guys have a fucking clue what it would take to point a gun and someone and pull the trigger.
Flappin' of their mouths is all.
 

sircashews

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shadow741 said:
Maybe it's because a lot of them are still like prepubescent kids with nothing else to comeback with other than "your mom" and "gay" jokes.
Please don't give them any ideas man..... no seriously please don't give them any ideas about comebacks man.

As for the hate for humanity maybe they suck behind someone who didn't pull out far enough in the intersection and they had to wait till the next light, and wow I think I people now.
 

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Most of the people who have posted on this thread can go fuck themselves. "It is just teen angst", "they ignore the good of humanity", "they want to feel superior", "it's cool to hate X", "they're traitors who limit human advancement", "they should all kill themselves". Seriously. Fuck you and your stereotypes. If you were attempting to persuade anyone to move away from misanthropy and recognise the goodness of people then I must say you have failed miserably, and if you were simply looking to insult people who think differently from you then you have failed even more.
 

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I dont like people but i am very social (passive agressive). Me and my hatred have to do with pretty much every person i meet being a compleat drain on society and being utter douch bags with out a care for any one other than they. If a person adds to humanity then they are ok, if they show that they are worthy and will be able to give back then they are ok, but most people do not and will not provide anything.
 

Caligulove

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Teen angst.

Occasionally look at the profiles of those that continuously have a 'hate mankind' theme, and a lot of them are definitely going through their "being a misanthrope, having a constant apathetic opinion and thinking quasi-philosophical is really cool and deep"

They'll grow out of it.
They always do.
Realize that shit really isn't that bad.
And they'll be better off for it
 

Nazulu

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I don't necessarily hate humanity but I do hate things like corruption and the out-bursts of violence.

Also, the lack of standards and common sense are starting to give me the shits.
 

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Marter said:
I think it mostly boils down to teen angst. The majority of this site is under 18, and therefore the teen angst is inevitable.
Angst? What Angst? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AngstWhatAngst]

I don't hate humanity, I can't hate them due to the simple fact that we do some serious crazy awesome stuff.

We make lasers
Fly in the skys
and mapped the eart.
We are humans, no one can stand up to us.
 

Furious Styles

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If anyone does its because its a way of placing yourself apart from humanity, stating yourself as different and somehow better.

Of course, so many people do it that it becomes, in itself, the sort of behaviour they decry.
 

Housebroken Lunatic

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Riccan said:
This is why I find it bizzare how people seem to believe that they are right on something subjective and declare their own idea of hatred on someone for not thinking same way.
Speaking as a misanhrope, I wouldn't declare hatred on you or anyone else for having a different opinion about mankind than my own. I hate you because you're human. :)
 

Nieroshai

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Cheveyo said:
I don't hate people, myself. I just have so little confidence in them.
Humanity rarely impresses me.

Most people are generally predictable, cowardly, and quite frankly pathetic.
Even the blindly optimistic 'good people' are... irritating. I can understand not wanting the world to be an ugly place, but to me it's like walking through life with a blindfold on.




Demented Teddy said:
I'm the complete opposite of misanthropes.
I believe Humanity is glorious, capable of achieving anything and is greater then anything else in existence.

I hate misanthropes with a burning passion.
Misanthropes are part of humanity. You can't be selective like that.
"I like all people... except for this section of them."
So I'm not allowed(by some authority) to even dislike an individual or group? Does that mean I have to dislike everyone including myself, or else lie to myself for the rest of my life that I love every little miserable cell and atom on this rock? That is a chain I will not wear, as I am able to have opinions for a reason. It is not my place, however, to tell people that they must be like me or else. I don't have to love Hitler, but I don't have the right to tell you to hate him either.
Back on topic: humans are mentally broken little toys as a group. They always hate something, and love to tell themselves their hatred is virtuous. So yeah, I believe there is a great deal of self-loathing in us as a collective. It doesn't help that it's uncool now to believe life has a purpose other than to f### and die. Lie or not, it used to make us so comfortable. Now we sit in the sewers of our own mortality hating every minute of it.