I can honestly say I have never been this disgusted
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I don't buy fur, but I strongly disagree with the still living part of this topic. I don't hate the fur trade in itself, I hate the illegal part of it and when it's endangered species being skinned. But thats not an issue I'm getting involved in.MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
I know, I just wanted to see your reaction when I showed that I know who he was.Cliff_m85 said:I wasn't being literal.Julianking93 said:
Not many people know about Norman, plenty know about Hitler and Dahmer and etc etc.
And, I do see your point. People in general do know more about Hitler, John Wayne Gacey, Ted Bundey, and so on, but that's why I like to study more about the good people in the world rather than be one of those people who sits around all day watching Cold Case Files and I Survived...
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Sorry man, i'm a little sensible about PETA...
...If i was wrong i apologize, i didn't meant to offend you. I just have a problem with this organization and their ways of handeling topics and people.
And yeah, i also find skinning animals alive is absolutely repulsive and cruelty without any sense...that has to stop.
But on the other hand humans have way more value to me as animals and many people on this planet really suffering...so logically i would spent my energy to help them first.
If those chinese guys had better circumstances...they maybe had taken another job and animals would have a benfit too...a chinese law against animal cruelty?...
so we should start focusing on helping our fellow humans.
I couldn't watch it. I really couldn't. I just...its just...why...? Why would they do this? I don't see a point to it, I really don't. It just makes me sad to know that stuff like this goes on, and has been going on, and will continue to go on. At least, smash its skull in or something. Even that is more humane than skinning the poor things alive.
They are animals. We are humans. We are not ending a life, we are harvesting a resource. It is maternal instinct to sympathize with this kind of animal. I want a pet one now 
. If the were the core-lizard farm, no one would be complaining.
. If the were the core-lizard farm, no one would be complaining.
Ok... could not continue to watch that half way through.... shit man, that is sick.
The least you could ask for is that the thing be dead before it had to go through that.
Well, while I do not agree with alot of things PETA stands for, I think we can agree this is an abomination.
I mean I heard accounts of one asian family that plucked the feathers off birds and not kill them so that they would be fresh for dinner. The reason they gave about not killing the birds: it would cost them ice to keep them fresh.
We have to remember that this is Communist China, its another world entirely. Its a land where wanted posters in the cities also have notes on them reading: need not apply if your 30 or over. In such a place it is easy to imagine people going to the extremes, to this.
There are things we as consumers can do to stop this. We can refuse to buy fur from producers who use inhumane techniques such as this the same way we can refuse to buy blood diamonds that could potentially fuel a bloody war in Africa.
The choice is ultimately yours.
The least you could ask for is that the thing be dead before it had to go through that.
Well, while I do not agree with alot of things PETA stands for, I think we can agree this is an abomination.
I mean I heard accounts of one asian family that plucked the feathers off birds and not kill them so that they would be fresh for dinner. The reason they gave about not killing the birds: it would cost them ice to keep them fresh.
We have to remember that this is Communist China, its another world entirely. Its a land where wanted posters in the cities also have notes on them reading: need not apply if your 30 or over. In such a place it is easy to imagine people going to the extremes, to this.
There are things we as consumers can do to stop this. We can refuse to buy fur from producers who use inhumane techniques such as this the same way we can refuse to buy blood diamonds that could potentially fuel a bloody war in Africa.
The choice is ultimately yours.
Sorry, I lost a lot of respect as soon as your post had "PETA" in it. (I'm referring to the OP's link.)
I understand that animal rights are a big issue, but there's a few things wrong with this statement. One, PETA wrote it. PETA is one of the dummest organizations out there. They've throw paint on people who wear fur coats. In some people's cases, they throw paint on faux fur coats.
PETA takes things and twists them to make them seem worse a lot of times, to be honest.
Also, since this is in China, I'm not surprised. In China, if you have a daughter, you're not obligated to treat her as well as your son. (Please note that this is more so in the rural parts of China. Most modern provinces try to stay clear of this mindset.)
Basically, China's got a lot to learn. Sure I'm digusted, but what can we do about it? It's up to the person's own country to decide what does and does not qualify as animal rights.
I understand that animal rights are a big issue, but there's a few things wrong with this statement. One, PETA wrote it. PETA is one of the dummest organizations out there. They've throw paint on people who wear fur coats. In some people's cases, they throw paint on faux fur coats.
PETA takes things and twists them to make them seem worse a lot of times, to be honest.
Also, since this is in China, I'm not surprised. In China, if you have a daughter, you're not obligated to treat her as well as your son. (Please note that this is more so in the rural parts of China. Most modern provinces try to stay clear of this mindset.)
Basically, China's got a lot to learn. Sure I'm digusted, but what can we do about it? It's up to the person's own country to decide what does and does not qualify as animal rights.
When have you ever heard of a dog actually dragging someone out of a burning building?Ajna said:
I hear human beings do it all the time, even have people completely dedicated to the job, now what were they called... firemen?
Say, did you hear that story the woman who passed out from taking too many sleeping pills when her pet dog ATE HER FACE!!! Yeah, ripped all the flesh off.
Well... I know there's a joke in there about "MAN's best friend" but seriously her fucking face, shit like that has put me off owning a dog for life.
On topic: Why those Chinese guys don't just shoot those animals and be done with it I have no idea. It doesn't make any sense.
Also... youtube will host depraved stuff like that yet they go nuts when they see some boobies? Crazy world.
1) This is PETA
2) Animals are not human, they do not have the same though process and mental development that we do. With that said yes the video is disgusting and does show the severe sociopathic traits of the skinners.
3) This is one video from one source on the internet that's on a planet with a population >6 billion people. These actions while lamentable will always happen and do not need to be put on display as some gaudy rally point. Those who wish to enact a change will do find others with there same goals and do not need this to remind them because THEY ALREADY KNOW.
2) Animals are not human, they do not have the same though process and mental development that we do. With that said yes the video is disgusting and does show the severe sociopathic traits of the skinners.
3) This is one video from one source on the internet that's on a planet with a population >6 billion people. These actions while lamentable will always happen and do not need to be put on display as some gaudy rally point. Those who wish to enact a change will do find others with there same goals and do not need this to remind them because THEY ALREADY KNOW.
This is the stereotypical response, deny the point or deny the pointer, I don't mind people being ignorant, but atleast try to identify with my points.theultimateend said:Ever see the Penn and Teller episode on PETA?BakaSmurf said:
They scare me pretty bad
Should I provide you with an address or should I just assume that you'll be mailing them to the nearest person who reminds you of me?FarleShadow said:I brought you a cookie, it has chocolate chips and several shards of depleted uranium shaped like a point, because you fucking missed it.theultimateend said:The worst part here is I don't know if you are fucking with me or notFarleShadow said:
Because I know people who really don't believe in Global Warming but then I don't know people who really believe that parents haven't had sex more than once.
Mainly because I'm sure there were a few failed attempts
Noob.
I could probably pay off my college with that uranium.
Also, Global warming: The fear. Good luck proving it.
I nearly didn't watch the video in the first place due to the PETA factor, but regardless of an otherwise retarded organisation this is sickening. I really dislike the mindset of PETA but I'd rather have the world run by PETA then by these disgusting people.VanityGirl said:
When he was beating it out like a rug I laughed, hard. When he started skinning it I turned it off, because it was boring.
On topic: I suppose it's cost efficient to do it this way, and a better product would increase profit margins.
Can't say I feel disgusted though.
On topic: I suppose it's cost efficient to do it this way, and a better product would increase profit margins.
Can't say I feel disgusted though.