I don't understand; why so much man-hate?

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Christ_Puncher

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Broloth said:
The most sexist thing said to me? "You can't hit a girl." My response "As of 1920, yeah, I can."

Women are quick to jump on the sexist band wagon cause they are usually feminist. Feminist women are the kinds of people who deny that false-rape exists and claim that, although men and women should be equal, women shouldn't be drafted if one ever occurred. The kind of people who wear low cut tops and short shorts but if you look at them then they pull out the sexist card and try to sue you or get you fired or w/e.

I get appreciated for doing nice things for my Gf all the time. For our anniversary I surprised her by flying us down to Corpus Christi and we spent the weekend on the beach.

Playing an -ist card is easy, unless you're a white male. Blacks do it, women do it, religious groups do it, but when a white person complains because a "homi" called them a cracker, then, nope, you already had "hundreds of years" to oppress mah pe-po. Because, the hundreds of years we enslaved the Africans is so much more equivalent to the thousands of years that Jewish people have been enslaved, but I don't hear Jewish people complaining about that crap all the time. N***** is censored. Why? Because it is offensive to blacks, but what about "*****"? It's offensive to women, and women were "oppressed" for a lot longer than blacks were. They're still oppressed by many people, the muslims for example; but you don't have to go on a podium and apologize every time you say "sonovabitch" or "dude don't be such a *****".

But like Cartman once said, "I didn't throw a rock at him 'cause he's black, I threw a rock at him cause he's an asshole." One time a women came into my fraternity, and we were playing Kings. I picked up a six and went "six is for chicks, all girls drink" and she looked at me like I just threw up on her mom. "What?" I asked. "I don't appreciate that kind of label." "What label?" "Chicks!" "Listen you stupid *****, I didn't make the rules to this game, six rhymes with chicks and five rhymes with guys, that's how it works." She went to the president of the frat and told him what happened. He laughed and told her he'd take care of it. He told me to be brutal to her, but I wasn't. Instead, when the next six was picked up I said, "Six-is-for-women-who-feel-that-the-label-'chick'-is-offensive,-even-though-I-don't-know-why-they-would-think-that-because-baby-chickens-are-cute" and she got pissed again and started complaining. "What do you want me to say?" I asked. "Just say, six is for girls." "Girls aren't allowed to drink alcohol, so I'm going to have to ask you to leave." She left and never came back, but it's that kind of one-sided single mindedness that pisses me off about people.

/rant
That's some funny shit right there.

Anywho, threads stereotyping entire genders are mentally handicapped. Every person should be judged apart, but you'll find that most people are assholes/dumbasses.
 

theklng

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Sparkly-elf said:
So..... is the breast-war going to start all over again?

Sigh, I made this thread about men. Not tits.
you don't need to excuse for the opposite gender. plus, everything isn't just black and white, everyone has flaws. you also mistake sex for love; sex isn't always love and you don't have to love someone to have sex with them. i also think you're fooling yourself in assuming what you boyfriend thinks, because honestly, you don't know. if you say he has a thing for something that you don't have, then i'd take a bet that he fantasizes about it, even though there's no way of proving it (which is also why you can't say that you know what he thinks for a fact).
 

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Sparkly-elf said:
:p I made this so I could appreciate all the good things about men and hope others would do the same.

No, it's not your "duty", but it is nice to be appreciated every once in a while, isn't it? Personally, I don't think men are praised for the little things enough.
I think you're right, and it's definatly nice to be appreciated. The friend zone still hurts sometimes though, what is it with us that we can't be loved :( Why prefer the pompous macho's/douchebags/'hot guys' over us.

Phyroxis said:
Except that in ancient cultures large breasts and rears were not associated with sex. They were qualities of women who were strong and able to provide for their offspring. They were symbols of a good, potential, mother.
And that's exactly the reason why breasts play a certain role in the ritual of mating. Sex isn't just "insert your weener here, wait for babies". Courting, forplay, all the rituals around it aren't to be forgotten as well.
 

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Yes, men annoy me but so do women. Actually, women annoy me more, and I am one.

I laugh at the "get back to the kitchen!" philosophy a lot of men seem to have and I can take the piss outta myself.

I love all my boy mates because they don't use the fact I'm a girl against me, they treat me like one of the lads (probably because I act like one).
My boyfriend loves me for some unknown reason, and seems to find me attractive despite the fact I'm not a size 6 super model.
I look pretty good in the dark though :p
 

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As Broloth eloquently put women love playing the sexist card, because it makes them feel like some oppressed minority rather than a bunch of whiny masochistic twats who desperately want attention from their "sadistic overlords." (Broad generalization, but you catch my drift, right?) It's the same with the skater/goth etc. subcultures, Blacks and Asians, and everybody else that isn't the stuck-up white man who wears an Armani suit and works on Wall Street. They dress like whores, yet glare at you if you look at them the "wrong" way. They believe they should be treated equally yet refuse to take on "manly" duties. Heh. In the immortal words of Gregory House, "Women. Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em and tell the neighbors they moved to Atlantic City to become strippers." "Feminists are hypocrites. Today's sluts are celebrities, yesterday's sluts are empowered women. If that's not progress what is? Maybe someday you'll learn that your evolutionary purpose is to arouse men, not castrate them."

Like it or not boys and girls you need the opposite gender to sustain your own. Get over it.
 

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theklng said:
Sparkly-elf said:
So..... is the breast-war going to start all over again?

Sigh, I made this thread about men. Not tits.
you don't need to excuse for the opposite gender. plus, everything isn't just black and white, everyone has flaws. you also mistake sex for love; sex isn't always love and you don't have to love someone to have sex with them. i also think you're fooling yourself in assuming what you boyfriend thinks, because honestly, you don't know. if you say he has a thing for something that you don't have, then i'd take a bet that he fantasizes about it, even though there's no way of proving it (which is also why you can't say that you know what he thinks for a fact).
True, I don't know, and I know he obviously fantasises about what I don't have and can't give him, but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's only healthy, if he thought I was the sexiest thing on the planet and only thought about me and had eyes for me, I'd think he was insane.

You're right, I don't know exactly what he thinks, but I doubt he's fooling me. I appreciate all the things he does for me, I love him for them, and he loves me for doing just that.

Of course, I could just be assuming that he loves me. I could be assuming right, or I could be wrong.

Either way, I'll keep my optimism.
 

Sparkly-elf

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DarthHK said:
As Broloth eloquently put women love playing the sexist card, because it makes them feel like some oppressed minority rather than a bunch of whiny masochistic twats who desperately want attention from their "sadistic overlords." (Broad generalization, but you catch my drift, right?) It's the same with the skater/goth etc. subcultures, Blacks and Asians, and everybody else that isn't the stuck-up white man who wears an Armani suit and works on Wall Street. They dress like whores, yet glare at you if you look at them the "wrong" way. They believe they should be treated equally yet refuse to take on "manly" duties. Heh. In the immortal words of Gregory House, "Women. Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em and tell the neighbors they moved to Atlantic City to become strippers." "Feminists are hypocrites. Today's sluts are celebrities, yesterday's sluts are empowered women. If that's not progress what is? Maybe someday you'll learn that your evolutionary purpose is to arouse men, not castrate them."

Like it or not boys and girls you need the opposite gender to sustain your own. Get over it.
Does someone need a big hug?
 

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Sparkly-elf said:
Padfoot13 said:
also women find men hoping to change them when they dont change, and men find women hoping they dont change, which they do.
It scares me how many people I know like that.

I myself, have a boyfriend who comes from a troubled background. So I try to encourage and support him every day, tell him how much I love and respect him all the time. Because I know no one ever has, and not many more people will.

I hate the whole "Oh, but they're damaged, and I can fix them," lark, because it's gone about in the entirely wrong way. Unless they actually felt truly sympathetic for them, it makes the whole thing redundant.
Being damaged has become a selling point for women wanting men. Look at emo kids, they aren't damaged in anyway but they pretend it to be with women. Women want fake damage, how many women do you know go ga-ga over cancer patients. NONE, its because they are the wrong kind of damaged, women like phycological damage.
 

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asinann said:
Nice men are appreciated, but most women I know won't date them. Nice men are viewed as too soft and incapable of protecting or providing comfort.

My dad is the nicest guy I know, poor guy can't land a date with a hooker paying for her time and then NOT sleeping with her.

My uncle is a prick, and he can have any woman he wants.
That's the way the world goes round.
 

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It's true men and women are wired differently, but we all are subject to the same various personalities and quirks that heredity and life dump in our laps.

Maybe if I present a hypothetical situation with myself (a guy) it may help.

Let's say that I was in a long-term commitment with a woman or married. If she wanted to go out and have a career, I would support her 100%! It's not a drive that I have because of my demeanor. I am non-competitive and passive-aggressive. I hate authority and refuse to turn a job that I hate into a career for the sake of having one.

On my positive side, I enjoy taking care of others. Even with friends I have within my age group, I'm like a surrogate parent; a caretaker if you will. But I'm smart enough to know when someone is trying to mooch. This is how I would be with "hypothetical career wife." I have no problem with cooking and cleaning, or watching children. It wouldn't be as if I'm living off of her income, someone has to take care of everything else while she works. If anything, I'll take pride in keeping our house so darn neat. My pride isn't hurt by women that are better than me, it's only challenged by others of lesser intelligence who get managerial positions above me and throw their weight around. Sure I could kiss enough ass to get their job but then, I'm not a kiss-ass and they can go fark themselves.

So there you go.

Are all men jerks? No. But the jerks do make it harder for us nice guys out there. I might fall under that "too soft" category of guys to some ladies and if that's their mindset then they can slag off. It's almost a double-standard how there are some women that feel the need to show everyone that they're empowered and hate men that are also empowered (so much that they're jerks) but that's always the ones they seem to go for. They want to take on life as a couple of "jerks in love" like some kind of heel pro-wrestling tag-team.

Heck, it would seem based on what I just said previously about my work-ethic that I'd probably live the best I could with a career woman... of course if she wanted to start a chain of nursing homes or daycare centers we'd both still be in luck.

I don't really know where or when I was trying to make a point, just sharing some personal semi-objective views from a man who's not a chauvinist pig or a complete idiot. The women that I am attracted to are the ones that can intellectually stimulate me.
 

theklng

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Sparkly-elf said:
theklng said:
Sparkly-elf said:
So..... is the breast-war going to start all over again?

Sigh, I made this thread about men. Not tits.
you don't need to excuse for the opposite gender. plus, everything isn't just black and white, everyone has flaws. you also mistake sex for love; sex isn't always love and you don't have to love someone to have sex with them. i also think you're fooling yourself in assuming what you boyfriend thinks, because honestly, you don't know. if you say he has a thing for something that you don't have, then i'd take a bet that he fantasizes about it, even though there's no way of proving it (which is also why you can't say that you know what he thinks for a fact).
True, I don't know, and I know he obviously fantasises about what I don't have and can't give him, but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's only healthy, if he thought I was the sexiest thing on the planet and only thought about me and had eyes for me, I'd think he was insane.

You're right, I don't know exactly what he thinks, but I doubt he's fooling me. I appreciate all the things he does for me, I love him for them, and he loves me for doing just that.

Of course, I could just be assuming that he loves me. I could be assuming right, or I could be wrong.

Either way, I'll keep my optimism.
don't get me wrong, i don't think he is fooling you. just don't fool yourself into thinking that he is perfect and would never so much as think of another woman. you seem calm about it though so i don't think you really do mind, even though your first post suggested otherwise.
 

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Sparkly-elf said:
and would never even want it.
Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."
 

Sparkly-elf

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Ionami said:
Sparkly-elf said:
and would never even want it.
Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."
Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.
 

Ionami

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Sparkly-elf said:
Ionami said:
Sparkly-elf said:
and would never even want it.
Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."
Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.
I don't hate all men, or even close to all men. Just the ones who rape and stuff like that.

And I'm sure he's completely happy with you the way you are. (Not sarcasm)

But I'm also sure that he wouldn't say no if a magical spell that increased breast size happened to find it's way to you. (If he truly does like big gazongas like you say he does.)

And there's nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean he's any more or less happy. Let's just be honest here. And that goes for ANY situation, ANY person, and ANY thing.
 

Sparkly-elf

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Ionami said:
Sparkly-elf said:
Ionami said:
Sparkly-elf said:
and would never even want it.
Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."
Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.
I don't hate all men, or even close to all men. Just the ones who rape and stuff like that.

And I'm sure he's completely happy with you the way you are. (Not sarcasm)

But I'm also sure that he wouldn't say no if a magical spell that increased breast size happened to find it's way to you. (If he truly does like big gazongas like you say he does.)

And there's nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean he's any more or less happy. Let's just be honest here. And that goes for ANY situation, ANY person, and ANY thing.
That's very true, and again that there's nothing wrong with it. I don't really care if he likes big breasts or not, because he likes me, and I don't have them. Odd logic I know, but it makes me happy in my own head.

I did suggest implants once or twice (on a side, not seriously), and he said that despite the appeal, he doesn't want me to undergo surgery just to have nicer breasts and I was fine the way I was and blah blah blah.

Those scentences after the first were a generalisation, not directed at you. I didn't mean to say YOU hate men, I'm REALLY trying not to troll.
 

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Sparkly-elf said:
Ionami said:
Sparkly-elf said:
and would never even want it.
Let's not be ridiculous.

Just because I'm OKAY without a Ferrari, doesn't mean if someone offered me one for free I would say "No thank you, I'm fine."
Ah, but you are not he.

On a side note, I have only seen one post where someone actually said something nice about men.

C'mon, you can't hate them all the time.
We are being nice, we're saying we are not all retards just the media majority of us are.

I said in a thread a while back "First rule of people: don't listen to the ones that like to speak out" and this goes well here too, if you take a judgung of people based on the way a small,advertised number of them act then being socially accepting: you're doin' it wrong.

Also referring to my little chart in my first post in this thread, that counts in here too people* are afraid of saying anything very "side-choosy" for fear of being labeled.

*me too
 

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Abedeus said:
Breasts are the symbol of fertility. Therefore, they ARE related to sex organs. Guess why it's considered impolite to show your breasts in public?
ONLY in Western Civilization. Most cultures actually DO NOT involve breasts in ANY Sexual Acts. They are made PURELY for feeding children.
If you go to Africa or look back into Indian cultures, they only wore skirts or material to cover their genitals. Breasts were never looked at as Sexual.
 

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sebar nl said:
In RL when I'm talking with a girl I keep eye-contact at ALL times . not the creepy staring thing just eye-contact. It gives them the the feeling that I'm interested in what they have to say. Works very well!
I can't do it. It's too intense. I usually end up looking at a person's mouth as they're talking to me, occasionally glancing up at their eyes. Whether they're a man or a woman.
 

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Now, even though I'm a jaded misanthrope, I think I'll post in a thread like this.
I try to be nice, to some people, but some general types of people just piss me off to no end.
1.) Rush Limbaugh, never actually heard him but I heard about his feminazi thing.
2.) I'm a guy, I wouldn't know.
3.) Some do it because there are so many idiots out there who will go on a bloody crusade against men for our existence (By the way I support feminists, and believe that women are equal, but none of this doing less work and getting paid the same/more, you do the same amount of work and get paid the same) (oh and those ones who go off and say they don't need men amuse me so much. Men are a necessary part of the reporductive cycle [now there are (well, in truth most) some pricks that I wouldn't mind if they were eliminated from the gene pool all together...] (I overuse parantheses btw...) and some are brainwashed into believing that men are evil, etc.
4.) I dunno, I'm not a very talkative person, probably on account of being manic-depressive with ADD and a jaded misanthrope, but you know (Mildly manic-depressive, noone tell me to see a therapist, rawr) and I find women very hard to understand really...then again I'm a bad judge of what almost anyone's thinking, barring something like an RTS, in which case I know exaclty what they'll do...
I'm still rather young, but I dunno. Womens' brain chemistry is also vastly different from males, which probably doesn't help my inability to understand how they think...I mean, I'm actually kind of scared of running into a bad "I think something I sad was nice, but it was really a terrible insult." I dunno, I'm not especially coherent right now.
Anyway. I'd like to think that I get appreciated for doing nice things, but then again, I;m not a nice person (although I try to be, mostly to girls...unless they're a [no offense, but there are this kind of people and they piss me off to no end] preppy ***** who thinks they're entitled and better than me. I go for equality, that doesn't mean you're better than me. Course I doubt any of that type of person frequents this forum but you know...)
Right, before I say anything else unintelligible, I'm going to go make dinner.

Edit: Although, on the rare occasion when I do find myself really attracted to someone (and it's probably part of the cause of the rarity) it's because I like them not just their looks (although those are nice ^^). I like their personality and the way they think.
I dunno, I'm crazy. Probably would be positive if there were some kind of crazy test that I cared enough to take.

Edit Again: Which is not to say that I don't find many people physically attractive, I just wouldn't relaly want to hang out with them. Oh, and I have managed what some [idiots] say is impossible, which is being friends with a girl/woman without any...whats the right word, sexuality seems too emphatic...

Edit AGAIN AGAIN!: ANd I fail to understand why so many girls that aren't...well, so manhy that don't just seem that type of person, fall for the guys that clearly just want to get into their pants and move on.

Edit *infinity symbol*: I can't stand the thought of doing something like that, I would feel, horrible really...
Now, I'm not 'soft' I'm fully capable of being an asshole and defending myself/others if needbe, I just don't like to. (As in I don't go around looking for fights) Now, I go to a private school and am a total geek, but it doesn't really bother me. I've never been much gtood at the whole social ladder thing anyway. I've only ever met one other guy like me, and we're good friends, well if he would every bother to get on AIM, moving to Indiana and all...
I mesh pretty well with most of the people at my school, but there are a few preppy assfaces that I don't like, and when they try to assert their dominance over me or whateverI make sure that it's CLEAR that I am not intimidated.
Wow that is so incredibly off topic I don't even know why I don't delete the rest of that.
Oh that's why.
I was actually intrigued by a conversation that I was in teh middle of, and said like one or two things, Is this one girl was actually pretty sick of most of the guys not standing up to him...
Wow, still off topic.
This may be the longest freaking reply I've ever posted.
 

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The most sexist thing I've ever heard?

'Wow, check out those hooters. I bet she's a real slut."

Don't have any good ones in my life right now.

Probably feeling underappreciated by them or by experievces as a kid or some shit.