Nurb said:
berethond said:
avykins said:
Just on the "What makes you think you deserve a good woman?" point. Too many times I have heard women going on about how they want a rich, handsome blah blah blah man and how they only deserve the best. Then you look at these chicks and they are fat, ugly, stupid, no skills or talents. Basically if their dream guy came along, he would not look at these women twice.
But anyway, marriage is a fucking joke. What is worse is now these de facto partnerships. Where if you bang the same person for 2-3 years in a row then they are entitled to half your shit (or at least half the stuff you got within those years) so say you were saving up for a house then after you get with her you buy the house, she lives with you in that house, even though she is putting no $$ towards it. If you break up even if by her cheating on you, she is entitled to half the fucking house.
I'm warning you, you better edit that sexist gem out before nil catches it.
You'll be in trouble then.
Being critical of women isn't sexist. He swore more than I did, but its a big thing that guys get angry about. Like we're told we're lucky if we even get a woman to marry us, and to shut up and deal with the fact that men have more to lose in a divorce. It's zero risk for one gender and that's wrong
It's zero risk because for some awful reason, the court system thinks that a mother is still the most 'nurturing' figure in a kids life, which is absolute BS, and women in general are still viewed as more 'needy' than men (No idea why, that 'delicate little flower' image can really suck sometimes).
The women that know this will take full advantage of the situation, since courts don't exactly look to see which parent really would be better off having the child for a majority of the time.
The legal system needs to catch up more than anything.
Personally, people don't seem to communicate that well with each other, and they don't want to wait either.
Where Avykins misses though, is while you do have the women who don't have much going for them begging for the perfect husband, you have men that want the trophy wife and have little going for them either. People want what they can't have and let that mindset get too carried away.
The idea of the 'perfect partner' is being bastardized. It's rarely a personal insight into what a person really wants or what would be good for them, just what a society says they need.
It's also more socially acceptable to get a divorce these days, so people really take it for granted.
To OP: The mindset of whomever said that men don't deserve a good wife is a true idiot. 'Good' is subjective to the person, and it seems the people pointing the finger at men hold some sort of contempt for them in an over-all perspective.
Men still have the 'power' image, and women still have the 'nurturing' (secondary) image, and most women would still take the 'nurturing' role over the 'power' role. That is what will set men and women apart in the job aspect of things, even though there are a good deal of men taking the 'nurturing' role and women taking the 'power' role. Priorities just seem to differ in that respect, and a lot of the time the nurturing, or secondary, role doesn't pay as much as a power role.
Obviously that isn't true for every single person or every single role, but overall all it would seem that men are more likely to take a power role and women a nurturing role based on comfort level.
In some ways, men lock themselves into what obligations they are 'supposed' to have.
If they really want that changed, they are going to have to fight for it.