This is gaming. Not civilisation. I am aware of the benefits of PC gaming however for me console is the logical choice.Mycroft Holmes said:As I mentioned before, A PC is cheaper in almost every circumstance unless you're silly and buy from Apple with their 600% markup. It's essentially awash for purchasing both systems if you own a single console. If you own multiple consoles the averages point to the PC being less expensive. Especially if you consider that games can be gotten much cheaper on a console.chinangel said:fair enough...what if after your bills, your payments to the government and whatnot...you dont' have enough money to buy a pc?
Thus is my problem, and the main reason I dislike PC's and PC elitists. Simply put I do not have the money nor the patience to get a PC. The games I want are on the xbox, and quite frankly: I do not care which one is more powerful. What I care about is if I am having fun.
And I'm not sure what you mean by 'patience.' It takes like two hours of work maximum to set up everything on a PC. Including installing the OS, which you can basically go do something else while the computer installs it. If you seriously don't have the patience to do something for 2 hours then that probably explains your financial problems.
Also I'm pretty sure every game you want on xbox is on PC as well because pretty much everything is ported. The only difference is that I buy it for like 5-15$.
You don't like the idea of a more powerful system becoming far cheaper than the alternatives? I really can't argue against that because you're basically using the same argument the Amish make.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Pretty much another idea I don't like.
I'm arguing with them because I find it cathartic and fun. People never listen to logic when presented in an argumentative format. My pointing out how much better PCs are will more likely drive the people I'm arguing with away from PCs. Which isn't a universal truth, but is true for most people. They view it as an attack on their person and their egos activate must win mode and they use all their intellectual capacity coming up with damage control ideas rather than looking at the facts and trying to make an argument based on them.(which isn't to say that the person I was trying to 'convince' did that, s/he actually seemed to try to be using well reasoned arguments.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Further down you are arguing with someone to actually make them consider buying a PC when they play console.
But to convince most everyone you have to leave them an out. You have to compliment them and twist language around to make it seem like it was at least partially their idea so that they can feel good about themselves by moving towards your side of the argument. Which is a skill I'm actually quite good at, but have no desire to do here, because this is more fun to me. The only difference is that I'm quite aware of what I'm doing and the results of it.
I listed how it's economically better. I didn't even touch on the actual features.VeneratedWulfen93 said:You list how the PC is better in everyway as usual and act as if owning a console is illogical or stupid.
Also doing something stupid, does not a stupid person make. I know multiple very talented and intelligent people who don't believe in macroevolution. And I have made a lot of stupid decisions, the difference is that I analyze them and learn from them.
you are last sentance.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Also you're last sentance actually disgusts me.
Why yes I am, let my divinity be your apotheosis.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Are you some kind of gaming messiah that must spread his teachings to the unwashed masses?
And do you really not wash at all? I don't think that's a console thing. Pretty sure that's all you.
Firstly, you're acting like I'm breaking down your door and demanding that you throw away all your consoles. You made this thread about this subject not me. And ignoring other people is super easy considering this is all happening on the internet and you can literally just leave any thread about it. If that's not a skill you have, then life is going to be really difficult.VeneratedWulfen93 said:Let people play what they want instead of trying to convert them.
Secondly, that makes no sense whatsoever. If no one tried to convince anyone else of a specific way of thought or ideology then democracy, medicine, science, philosophy would all not exist and we would still be living in caves. Trying to convert people to better ideas is the foundation of civilization.
Thirdly, it's not that simple. What people purchase effects the industry and therefore effects me. Both by making things more expensive to me personally and by depriving developers of money via console dev licensing. Which if they didn't have to pay would allow them to either lower prices, or to create bigger, better and more polished games.
1. i want to game with my friends. None of whom play PC or are interested in playing PC.
2. There is no room in my room for a PC.
3. My internet goes off at 11 due to my parents trying to save electricity so I wouldn't be able to play any games on steam due to the recquired online connection.
4. My console makes me happy, I feel no differant when I play Dawn of War on my PC.
Now for reasons why I havn't abandoned thread.
1. Its a discussion, I wanted to discuss this with people. "Leave me alone PC gamers!" was a title I chose in refererance to Bad Education not "Leave Britney Alone."
2. It presents interesting viewpoints, confirms my point and hammers another nail into the coffin of this bloody issue.
3. Its my effing thread I can do what I want. Get pissed off, argue and such its all in the experience of learning.