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Mycroft Holmes said:
chinangel said:
fair enough...what if after your bills, your payments to the government and whatnot...you dont' have enough money to buy a pc?

Thus is my problem, and the main reason I dislike PC's and PC elitists. Simply put I do not have the money nor the patience to get a PC. The games I want are on the xbox, and quite frankly: I do not care which one is more powerful. What I care about is if I am having fun.
As I mentioned before, A PC is cheaper in almost every circumstance unless you're silly and buy from Apple with their 600% markup. It's essentially awash for purchasing both systems if you own a single console. If you own multiple consoles the averages point to the PC being less expensive. Especially if you consider that games can be gotten much cheaper on a console.

And I'm not sure what you mean by 'patience.' It takes like two hours of work maximum to set up everything on a PC. Including installing the OS, which you can basically go do something else while the computer installs it. If you seriously don't have the patience to do something for 2 hours then that probably explains your financial problems.

Also I'm pretty sure every game you want on xbox is on PC as well because pretty much everything is ported. The only difference is that I buy it for like 5-15$.

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Pretty much another idea I don't like.
You don't like the idea of a more powerful system becoming far cheaper than the alternatives? I really can't argue against that because you're basically using the same argument the Amish make.

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Further down you are arguing with someone to actually make them consider buying a PC when they play console.
I'm arguing with them because I find it cathartic and fun. People never listen to logic when presented in an argumentative format. My pointing out how much better PCs are will more likely drive the people I'm arguing with away from PCs. Which isn't a universal truth, but is true for most people. They view it as an attack on their person and their egos activate must win mode and they use all their intellectual capacity coming up with damage control ideas rather than looking at the facts and trying to make an argument based on them.(which isn't to say that the person I was trying to 'convince' did that, s/he actually seemed to try to be using well reasoned arguments.

But to convince most everyone you have to leave them an out. You have to compliment them and twist language around to make it seem like it was at least partially their idea so that they can feel good about themselves by moving towards your side of the argument. Which is a skill I'm actually quite good at, but have no desire to do here, because this is more fun to me. The only difference is that I'm quite aware of what I'm doing and the results of it.

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You list how the PC is better in everyway as usual and act as if owning a console is illogical or stupid.
I listed how it's economically better. I didn't even touch on the actual features.

Also doing something stupid, does not a stupid person make. I know multiple very talented and intelligent people who don't believe in macroevolution. And I have made a lot of stupid decisions, the difference is that I analyze them and learn from them.

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Also you're last sentance actually disgusts me.
you are last sentance.

VeneratedWulfen93 said:
Are you some kind of gaming messiah that must spread his teachings to the unwashed masses?
Why yes I am, let my divinity be your apotheosis.

And do you really not wash at all? I don't think that's a console thing. Pretty sure that's all you.

VeneratedWulfen93 said:
Let people play what they want instead of trying to convert them.
Firstly, you're acting like I'm breaking down your door and demanding that you throw away all your consoles. You made this thread about this subject not me. And ignoring other people is super easy considering this is all happening on the internet and you can literally just leave any thread about it. If that's not a skill you have, then life is going to be really difficult.

Secondly, that makes no sense whatsoever. If no one tried to convince anyone else of a specific way of thought or ideology then democracy, medicine, science, philosophy would all not exist and we would still be living in caves. Trying to convert people to better ideas is the foundation of civilization.

Thirdly, it's not that simple. What people purchase effects the industry and therefore effects me. Both by making things more expensive to me personally and by depriving developers of money via console dev licensing. Which if they didn't have to pay would allow them to either lower prices, or to create bigger, better and more polished games.
This is gaming. Not civilisation. I am aware of the benefits of PC gaming however for me console is the logical choice.
1. i want to game with my friends. None of whom play PC or are interested in playing PC.
2. There is no room in my room for a PC.
3. My internet goes off at 11 due to my parents trying to save electricity so I wouldn't be able to play any games on steam due to the recquired online connection.
4. My console makes me happy, I feel no differant when I play Dawn of War on my PC.

Now for reasons why I havn't abandoned thread.
1. Its a discussion, I wanted to discuss this with people. "Leave me alone PC gamers!" was a title I chose in refererance to Bad Education not "Leave Britney Alone."
2. It presents interesting viewpoints, confirms my point and hammers another nail into the coffin of this bloody issue.
3. Its my effing thread I can do what I want. Get pissed off, argue and such its all in the experience of learning.
 

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As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
 

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Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.

Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.

I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, last a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well.

I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC", while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories and much more expensive games for their console.

When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).

I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
My wrist hurts if I play PC too long. Also my neck hurts. And the keyboard is really frickin loud. Also I hate PC shooters. I also can't drive with a keyboard. World of Warplanes would be more fun with a controller. PC servers confuse my poor, linguistic-oriented brain. I don't have to share my Xbox. Either of them. Also FIFA is weirdly fun and it'd be strange to expect all my friends to suddenly upgrade their PCs too. Oh and my Xbox never RROD'd on me. And all the accessories came with it.

And I hate using a mouse. Did I mention that already?
1) You are so lucky on the RROD, I both had two systems that did it to me, and worked at a GameStop for a minute where I was CONSTANTLY seeing them coming in.

2) Not all keyboards are loud, and I find during gaming I'm not moving my hands as much as when I type, so it doesn't really get loud at all even on my standard keyboard... I mean it's not like you're typing a paragraph, you're hitting wasd. space is likely the only loudness, and it's not larger a bother than the vibration of rumble.

3) You likely only hate PC shooters because you get wrecked in them. No offense, not saying you're a bad player, it's just anyone who doesn't/can't use a mouse always does, because it's WAY easier to point and click someone in the face than work an imaginary cursor with two sticks into someone's face. And for some games, like RTS or Adventure, controllers just feel weird. That said, I use my DualShock3's wirelessly with my PC using Bluetooth whenever I want to play a console game (Arkham City is a great example as of late, as that on a keyboard would likely not be fun). That's what's so sweet about PC, you can have your cake and eat it too.

4) All the accessories except rechargeable batteries, a cable to charge them, a mic, other controller for when friends come over, headsets for them if you want to game online, oh and let's not forget your subscription to Xbox Live.

5) The only argument I can totally understand in this post is convincing everyone to switch over, as I have a copy of Borderlands and Dead Island that I just won't play because none of my friends have a PC/have a PC Copy of them. So that does suck, but I sort of blame the publishers and console companies on that one, as cross platform play should be a standard, but the industry won't admit that as that would be just one less barrier to catch money in.

P.S. They make mousepads with wrist cushions, they are amazing for stiff wrists, really though you shouldn't be suffering unless you game for an over-extended period of time, which isn't healthy on console either, just feels more comfortable because you're on a couch (which I shouldn't say, as I have my PC set up in my living room).

P.P.S. All of that said: to each their own. I can only show you the path to Valhalla, only you can walk it.
1) But then you'd ONLY have heard of the ones that were problematic, 'cause nobody would bring in a healthy one. But yeah I DID have one Xbox RRoD, but it got fixed pretty promptly.

2) I turn vibration off on my controllers. It serves no purpose but to piss me off.

3) That's likely true. I feel PC shooters lack the flow console shooters have. The straight-edge movement feels so unnatural compared to the rolling momentum controllers have. But for RTS, the PC has no equal. I'll agree there.

4) £40 a year is nothing. I'm 20, I earn more than that in a week even with my below-minimum wage job. And now that that's even over, I still have till June to pay for my next subscription. My headset came with the Xbox and my controller isn't wireless, because I have no idea what kind of person thought they would be a good idea.

5) I played Borderlands splitscreen, and even bought my brother a copy of Dead Island so we could play while I lived away from home.


Now here's my real justification for using a console. An Xbox 360 will fit on a TV table. Hell, you can mount your TV ON your console. My friend moved into his flat recently. He sleeps on a mattress on the floor because he can't get a moving-van in yet. He has a TV though, and I could sling my 360 into my laptop bag, wire it up and play a night of FIFA or something. As for a PC? It needs a desk. It's incredibly static. Can't be social with a PC. I have...um...three Xboxes because I moved out from home and my mother bought one for me to play with my brother while I was in another city. Then I came home after a year or so, and by then my brother's Xbox's laser had just...stopped working. So I bought my friend's 360 to replace it. I find it simple, social and enjoyable. No arsing about with ports and servers and shit like that. I play Minecraft on the Xbox regularly with friends. Tried to play PC Minecraft online. That was a headache. Even worse, Terraria just flat-out wouldn't work. I tell you what consoles need. Consoles need Steam. Then I'd have no criticism.


And damn your wrist-cushions. Who the hell thinks it's acceptable to have to arm a peripheral with safety features?

Captcha: Cheese Steak. That's fucking amazing.
All fair enough, and at the end of the day while I can make a number of points why I converted (which is probably another reason I try and convert others) to PC, you can also make a number of points why you're staying console, and it really all boils down to taste.

Sure, I have to work harder to get my games running as beautifully as they do (and sometimes it is insanely aggravating all the little thing that can go wrong), but I've found I like the challenge and satisfaction of working out how to get the game running just the way I want it to (I got KotOR running in widescreen high def the other day and got absurdly excited about it), plus playing games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3, or Borderlands, and knowing that I'm seeing it at max settings with nothing held back from the designers vision is something I find exciting as well.

So really it's all about taste, and I suppose in a way, how hardcore of a nerd you are. Haha. Still, I'm going to keep trying to convert people simply because I hate the console scene for how the companies treat their users in terms of things like DRM, price gouging, ignoring fan demand to make more money (best example off the top of my head on this one is blocking backwards compatibility then releasing a bunch of HD remakes, does anyone else remember back at launch when Microsoft said they'd make every Xbox game BC... meanwhile in the future...).

So, keep your console, and your beliefs, without and grudge from me, but by god I will keep the PC war drum going until Sony and Microsoft stop being such dicks to the console crowd.
 

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Mycroft Holmes said:
Thyunda said:
As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
 

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Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.

And if that's the case, then do it already man!

Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.

I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well (plus, if there is a some huge leap in graphics made you can SLI in another card of your card the next year when it's even cheaper).

I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC" mindset, while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories, the much more expensive games, or even having to pay to play online.

When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the mind-blowing-ly still an issue RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).

I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
If you read my post you would know I have a descent PC with an £80 graphics card. Seriously leave me to my shit system and stop being a damn priest. The only games I prefer on PC are RTS. Seriously do you guys every stop trying to make everyone a PC gamer? I havn't had RRoD since the jasper chip and people like you really get on my nerves. The smart alick 'There is no logical reason to play console' bastard that thinks all the problems of the industry will go away if people play PC.

As I said PC is better for RTS, that is all. Shooters are floaty and stupid on the PC. I played Fire Warrior a few years back and the PS2 version was so much better.

If by floaty you mean precise, and by stupid you mean hard for anyone not used to people actually being able to shoot you the second they see you.

I don't think everyone playing on a PC will solve all the problems in the industry, just a lot of them, and if you don't think that them maybe you aren't paying attention to the tactics Sony and Microsoft have been using on the console crowd.

And if you're going to insult me I'll have to throw some back. You're the type of person I hate, happy to be gouged by a faceless corporation with no hopes of freedom nor even a concept that they are trapped. Always quick to ***** about anyone pointing out the simple fact they are in their cage for fear of what that happy little cage really represents.

One last note: I don't go around in my daily life converting people to pc gaming, I'm an electronic musician and a student, gaming has very little to do with my life aside from as a terribly addicting hobby. So yes I do "stop trying to make everyone a pc gamer" quiet often, you're the one who made a post putting a massive target on your head saying "PC GAMERS! ON WHAT IS PROBABLY PRIMARILY A PC FORUM, FUCK YOU I LIKE CONSOLE!"

If you want to wallow in your console slavery, be my guest, for now, like everyone else, my only thought for you is:
Quit bitching.
 

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VeneratedWulfen93 said:
This is gaming. Not civilisation. I am aware of the benefits of PC gaming however for me console is the logical choice.
You realize that reply to post function will auto correct spelling for you, right?

Gaming and civilization both function by the same laws. The 'stakes are lower' isn't a reason to choose the worse system.

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1. i want to game with my friends. None of whom play PC or are interested in playing PC.
Sounds like a personal problem. I would just play consoles at their houses or not be friends with them in that manner. But you can just plug in multiple controllers on a PC and play the exact same games in the exact same manner. I've played 4 person games off of the same PC before.

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2. There is no room in my room for a PC.
What are you Harry Potter? You don't have room for a one to two cubic foot box? Where is your computer then? Or is it your parents computer?

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3. My internet goes off at 11 due to my parents trying to save electricity so I wouldn't be able to play any games on steam due to the recquired online connection.
I painted my media room and had to move my PC to a different room that had no access to internet last week. I was able to use my computer and play games on steam for 3 days without any internet access. You're completely wrong.

And I didn't even put it into offline mode first. I just moved it and booted it up. It saw there was no internet connection and went: 'hey do you want to play your games anyways?'

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4. My console makes me happy, I feel no differant when I play Dawn of War on my PC.
Cool, but you're paying more for that same feeling. And don't have access to mod functions, fan patches to fix bugs, abandonware, emulators for older games, ect.
 

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So you got annoyed with people saying mean things about consoles, so you start an attack on ALL PC players. Not the system. The players. And you still think your the victim?
 

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Let me just get this out there: I am an elitist gamer.

I own every console except 3DS. I also have two and a half gaming PCs in my house, each with two 22-24" monitors. I switch between connecting my 360 or PS3 to either my 40" TV or my 24" secondary monitor, and just always have the Wii hooked up to the monitor. I've also got a laptop hooked up to it and my iPad 2 is never out of reach. Also I have a pair of DSs, PSPs and a PSV in my top draw. All the older consoles are neatly displayed on one of my bookshelves, along with 3 more laptops for LAN parties.

And I play games across all of the above platforms. There are even times when I plug the 360 controller into the PC for racing games or plug the keyboard into the 360 for MMOs. I've even got Plants vs Zombies on every platform! If this doesn't qualify me to make judgements on which is superior between PCs and consoles, nothing will.

PCs have newer, stronger, and generally better designed technology. This lets them render games to levels consoles only dream of (think Skyrim, and what PS3 did to it). If you're playing games for their visual quality, or need the functionality only dual monitors can create for your games, then PC instantly wins. However consoles don't get bogged down with all the extra baggage that plagues PCs (like freakin' Microsoft Windows, anti Virus suites, or endless driver updates). There are also some games that are simply more fun with consoles (Mass Effect). Sure, keyboard and mouse are easily superior to gamepads when it comes to headshotting people from half way across the map in FPS games, but it just feels better if you do it with a controller. Consoles are built for 2 things - gaming experience, and convenience with media (I don't even need this with everything I have, but my parents do enjoy borrowing my PS3 to watch their favourite movies on BluRay). If you can't enjoy the game because if the limitations if the platform you're on, switch platform.

That said, with W8 Metro spanning smartphones, Xbox and PC in the near future... The border between PC and console is getting even more blurred.
Also, don't get me started on camera controls. Neither Kinect nor Move are there. They're a step forward, but a clumsy step aimed at kids who are easier to impress. As for WiiUs tablet controller... As long as the games designed can make use if it, I look forward to it. Not going to buy one straight away (my job is not so generous), but when there are more interesting games to play, I'll definitely pick one up. Maybe by summer next year or so.

TL;DR, PC vs Consoles depends on the games and the gamer... And only people who have tried both are allowed to make judgement calls.
 

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Thyunda said:
Mycroft Holmes said:
Thyunda said:
As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
 

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Thyunda said:
Mycroft Holmes said:
Thyunda said:
As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
So much for not having to buy many accessories.
 

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Thyunda said:
AnotherAvatar said:
Thyunda said:
Mycroft Holmes said:
Thyunda said:
As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
So much for not having to buy many accessories.

Funny thing about that is I can find all of this for less than the price of a 360 controller... Hmmmmmm
 

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This sounds eerily familiar.
It wasn't so long ago that the feeling was kind of the same, for us PC players. At least as I remember it. The consoles (as in the ones that actually completed with PCs at the time, the Xbox and PS1) came out and developers and people flocked to them, they took a vast portion of the market share, and there was a bit of fear there that those of us who played on computers exclusively, and have that preference, would lose our connection to the medium in the process. So we got defensive, in general, and tried to sway the tide with logic in some cases and bile in others. And still do.
Welcome to life, I guess? This thing happens. You mostly learn to just deal with it, or maybe ought to.
 

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Jokes aside, if anyone calls you stupid or a bad person, or not a "true gamer" because you game on a console, they're just being stupid themselves.

Certainly PCs have technical improvements and advantages over consoles. But this doesn't mean that PC gamers have free reign to browbeat console gamers because of it.

This coming from a PC gamer.
I have no problem with console users. I have a problem with studios that only develop for consoles. This problem indirectly causes me to get very angry at console users because I am then forced to invest my money into a $500 box that has no purpose other than playing games, just so I can play 2 or 3 "exclusive" titles.

Don't misunderstand that - if you have the money, or you just don't like the keyboard/mouse/whatever, or you don't like Windows, or even you only have enough money for one $500 box and you'd rather it run a third of your games well than a $500 PC running all your games slowly, I can understand ALL of that and I respect that.

The problem is when a studio somewhere out there assumes I am willing to do the same. Exactly 0 games are developed ON a console, yet almost half are developed exclusively FOR a console. This I have a problem with.

Release every game for every platform. Then I'm happy.
 

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AnotherAvatar said:
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Sounds to me like you're just making yourself feel their comments all the more because you're aware you should just get a better PC.

And if that's the case, then do it already man!

Quick fact: Every year new gear comes out, making last years gear much cheaper.

I just looked up the graphics card I have in my PC, a little over a year ago I bought it for around $700, now it's down to $350, and this card has run EVERY game I've thrown at it at full settings, and that includes Crysis, mind you my unnecessarily large ram adds to this, but that wasn't a bad price a year ago and I bet it's dirt cheap now. The tech is getting so strong now that I don't think you should try and box yourself in to the "I can't afford it" mindset, sure, if you are looking at this years absurd cards, but I'm here to tell you that it's not that expensive to build a quality gaming PC using last years parts, and it can easily be strong enough to last you for a while as well (plus, if there is a some huge leap in graphics made you can SLI in another card of your card the next year when it's even cheaper).

I feel like a lot of console gamers just buy into the "I can't afford a PC" mindset, while spending probably easily enough to build a new PC on accessories, the much more expensive games, or even having to pay to play online.

When I say things like this, I'm not trying to rub it in console gamers faces, I'm trying to wake them up and help them realize they're being swindled, especially if they own a 360 (from the mind-blowing-ly still an issue RRoD, to the absurd price of accessories, to paying for online play, that system is a money sink, long run you would likely save money on a PC compared to this).

I don't want the unwashed console masses to stay ignorant, I want to bathe them in the light of knowledge so they come out as the PC gaming masters they have always been inside.
If you read my post you would know I have a descent PC with an £80 graphics card. Seriously leave me to my shit system and stop being a damn priest. The only games I prefer on PC are RTS. Seriously do you guys every stop trying to make everyone a PC gamer? I havn't had RRoD since the jasper chip and people like you really get on my nerves. The smart alick 'There is no logical reason to play console' bastard that thinks all the problems of the industry will go away if people play PC.

As I said PC is better for RTS, that is all. Shooters are floaty and stupid on the PC. I played Fire Warrior a few years back and the PS2 version was so much better.

If by floaty you mean precise, and by stupid you mean hard for anyone not used to people actually being able to shoot you the second they see you.

I don't think everyone playing on a PC will solve all the problems in the industry, just a lot of them, and if you don't think that them maybe you aren't paying attention to the tactics Sony and Microsoft have been using on the console crowd.

And if you're going to insult me I'll have to throw some back. You're the type of person I hate, happy to be gouged by a faceless corporation with no hopes of freedom nor even a concept that they are trapped. Always quick to ***** about anyone pointing out the simple fact they are in their cage for fear of what that happy little cage really represents.

One last note: I don't go around in my daily life converting people to pc gaming, I'm an electronic musician and a student, gaming has very little to do with my life aside from as a terribly addicting hobby. So yes I do "stop trying to make everyone a pc gamer" quiet often, you're the one who made a post putting a massive target on your head saying "PC GAMERS! ON WHAT IS PROBABLY PRIMARILY A PC FORUM, FUCK YOU I LIKE CONSOLE!"

If you want to wallow in your console slavery, be my guest, for now, like everyone else, my only thought for you is:
Quit bitching.
I frequent these forums enough, I'm on a games design course and its all I bloody do when I'm not reading about video games on the internet. I don't feel like a slave at all. Microsoft charges me £40 a year when I earn £125 a week. I buy around 2 games a month, this week I'm buying Dishonoured.

I don't feel entitled to anything other than games and I get them. As soon as all the stuff you go on about effects me then I'll raise my fists in anger or when I get a job in the industry then I'll take action because then it will be my job.

Freedom? Trapped? Seriously? I can buy whatever games I want and play them whenever I want. You can rant about faceless corporations and such but unless it becomes and inconvinience to me then I won't care until I actually have a chance to do something rather than sign useless petitions or boycott developers because I didn't like a game.
 

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AnotherAvatar said:
Thyunda said:
AnotherAvatar said:
Thyunda said:
Mycroft Holmes said:
Thyunda said:
As someone else mentioned you can use any game controller you want on a PC. You can also plug your PC into the TV if that's the reason why your 'neck is hurting.' Unless your TV is like a CRT from the 90s there should be a connector for the monitor so that you can switch the input. And if it is a really old TV you can probably buy an adapter for like a buck fifty at most.

That's the setup that I have and it's really nice for watching streaming netflix and other videos.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard. How the hell am I gonna control it from my bed?
... They make these things now, they're pretty sweet, they call them wireless keyboards/mice...

See also: Keyboard lap tray.
So much for not having to buy many accessories.

Funny thing about that is I can find all of this for less than the price of a 360 controller... Hmmmmmm
Try to remember your aim is to convert console players to PC gamers, not non-gamers to PC gamers. I already HAVE everything I need to play enjoyable games. You're gonna need some serious persuasion.
 

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This is gaming. Not civilisation. I am aware of the benefits of PC gaming however for me console is the logical choice.
You realize that reply to post function will auto correct spelling for you, right?

Gaming and civilization both function by the same laws. The 'stakes are lower' isn't a reason to choose the worse system.

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1. i want to game with my friends. None of whom play PC or are interested in playing PC.
Sounds like a personal problem. I would just play consoles at their houses or not be friends with them in that manner. But you can just plug in multiple controllers on a PC and play the exact same games in the exact same manner. I've played 4 person games off of the same PC before.

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2. There is no room in my room for a PC.
What are you Harry Potter? You don't have room for a one to two cubic foot box? Where is your computer then? Or is it your parents computer?

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3. My internet goes off at 11 due to my parents trying to save electricity so I wouldn't be able to play any games on steam due to the recquired online connection.
I painted my media room and had to move my PC to a different room that had no access to internet last week. I was able to use my computer and play games on steam for 3 days without any internet access. You're completely wrong.

And I didn't even put it into offline mode first. I just moved it and booted it up. It saw there was no internet connection and went: 'hey do you want to play your games anyways?'

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4. My console makes me happy, I feel no differant when I play Dawn of War on my PC.
Cool, but you're paying more for that same feeling. And don't have access to mod functions, fan patches to fix bugs, abandonware, emulators for older games, ect.
I hate splitscreen. Are you also implying that I should just tell my friends (Who I know in real life and have done for years) to fuck off and go play PC? No, just no. I only get a chance to speak to them on xbox due to our conflicting work hours and only see them about once a week.

My PC is in the study and in use by the family constantly.

Fair point on the internet one yet why does everyone complain about it?

I don't mind paying extra since I can still afford 40k stuff, tabs, drink on the weekends and food at college. Counting coppers.
 

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I don't really care either way. I play both PC and Console - One's nice for one set of games (e.g. Morrowind, Minecraft, etc. on PC), the other's great for another set (E.g. Dark Souls, Halo, etc. on Xbox or Rayman on wii). What I'm saying, is this: Each to their taste, use what fits you best.
 

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Aylaine said:
I always felt that gamers should not be prejudiced against because of how they play their games. I think that only divides the gaming community as a whole. To me, a gamer is a gamer. Whether that's on a console, PC or a handheld. I personally don't understand the need to take offense with others on how they choose to play games either. :x
Who are you and why aren't there more of you on this forum?