Music Genres You Can't Stand

[razer17]

country and a lot of mass produced pop.

 

[Squarez]

J-Pop.

Urgghh.

 

[Oolinthu]

Oh boy, I can see the long list of people saying rap is not good because they generalize on the "big guys".

To judge a music genre, you have to judge it on that genre's big names. The big names reflect the primary sound and target of that genre. The smaller-name artists, though they may be "better," are smaller because they do not reflect the main body of the genre, where most of the listeners are located.

That being said, I do not like rap.

So, you're saying we should judge rock on The Jonas Brothers? Well rock sucks then.

The Jonas Brothers are not, in fact, rock. According to iTunes, at least, they are pop. And I think that the vast, vast majority of rock music fans will agree with me that they are not rock.

No true Scotsman fallacy; redefining the terms to suit your argument. "Pop music" simply refers to music that is designed to be popular - and succeeds to some extent. There is no element or characteristic, technical, artistic, or otherwise, that distinguishes pop music from any other genre.

50 Cent and Lil Wayne are also pop. There are *many* hip hop fans who do not consider these two to be genuine hip hop, but by your initial criteria, they are hip hop, and the Jonas Brothers are rock. So if we're judging genres by their current big names (which is pretty stupid, actually), Orgasmatron's argument holds.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

Rap, lounge, metal and jazz. Oh wait, I like the final three! Seriously though, I am not a rap fan, I am not going to ***** about it!

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Rap and Country. Rap in general sucks, it's akin to a pickaxe to the brain in terms of entertainment. Country is all the same and sux. Ah, R&B sux too.

A lot of music is lame, I heard someone say they hated techno and it blew my mind since techno is one of my faves.

 

[Oolinthu]

Rap and Country. Rap in general sucks, it's akin to a pickaxe to the brain in terms of entertainment. Country is all the same and sux. Ah, R&B sux too.

A lot of music is lame, I heard someone say they hated techno and it blew my mind since techno is one of my faves.

No, your opinion is like a pickaxe to the brain in terms of discussion, by virtue of being a crass, baseless generalization. But, if one is allowed to exist, so should the other be, I suppose.

I'm sure it did blow your mind, that someone disliked a genre you liked. It's laughable, really.

 

[deadaim6]

Anything that disney channel supports in any way

This. Also, I find rap (unless comically used) unbearable. The only other genres I can stand is scremo, opera, and most international music.

 

[InProgress]

Manele (a local genre bastardising Turkish love songs which has lyrics revolving around only a couple of themes: "Money", "Singer's ego", "Singer's women", "Singer's enemies") and Techno.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Rap and Country. Rap in general sucks, it's akin to a pickaxe to the brain in terms of entertainment. Country is all the same and sux. Ah, R&B sux too.

A lot of music is lame, I heard someone say they hated techno and it blew my mind since techno is one of my faves.

No, your opinion is like a pickaxe to the brain in terms of discussion, by virtue of being a crass, baseless generalization. But, if one is allowed to exist, so should the other be, I suppose.

I'm sure it did blow your mind, that someone disliked a genre you liked. It's laughable, really.

Lol, I would have said 'because techno is good' but then it would sound like I'm stating a fact when it is my own opinion. I don't really understand your first paragraph, feel free to elaborate... oh by the way, rap, r&b and country all suck.

 

[Sh4dowSpec]

Oh boy, I can see the long list of people saying rap is not good because they generalize on the "big guys".

To judge a music genre, you have to judge it on that genre's big names. The big names reflect the primary sound and target of that genre. The smaller-name artists, though they may be "better," are smaller because they do not reflect the main body of the genre, where most of the listeners are located.

That being said, I do not like rap.

So, you're saying we should judge rock on The Jonas Brothers? Well rock sucks then.

The Jonas Brothers are not, in fact, rock. According to iTunes, at least, they are pop. And I think that the vast, vast majority of rock music fans will agree with me that they are not rock.

No true Scotsman fallacy; redefining the terms to suit your argument. "Pop music" simply refers to music that is designed to be popular - and succeeds to some extent. There is no element or characteristic, technical, artistic, or otherwise, that distinguishes pop music from any other genre.

50 Cent and Lil Wayne are also pop. There are *many* hip hop fans who do not consider these two to be genuine hip hop, but by your initial criteria, they are hip hop, and the Jonas Brothers are rock. So if we're judging genres by their current big names (which is pretty stupid, actually), Orgasmatron's argument holds.

Fine. Let's say that the Jonas Brothers are rock. There are a great, great many other big-name rock artists (Shinedown, Saving Abel, Papa Roach, Motley Crue, Rise Against, and Guns N' Roses, to name a few), and you must also take them into account when judging the genre.

 

[^onoomar^]

ALOT of rap. but i most recently discovered i like spm and notourious b.i.g but thats about it

 

[Oolinthu]

Oh boy, I can see the long list of people saying rap is not good because they generalize on the "big guys".

To judge a music genre, you have to judge it on that genre's big names. The big names reflect the primary sound and target of that genre. The smaller-name artists, though they may be "better," are smaller because they do not reflect the main body of the genre, where most of the listeners are located.

That being said, I do not like rap.

So, you're saying we should judge rock on The Jonas Brothers? Well rock sucks then.

The Jonas Brothers are not, in fact, rock. According to iTunes, at least, they are pop. And I think that the vast, vast majority of rock music fans will agree with me that they are not rock.

No true Scotsman fallacy; redefining the terms to suit your argument. "Pop music" simply refers to music that is designed to be popular - and succeeds to some extent. There is no element or characteristic, technical, artistic, or otherwise, that distinguishes pop music from any other genre.

50 Cent and Lil Wayne are also pop. There are *many* hip hop fans who do not consider these two to be genuine hip hop, but by your initial criteria, they are hip hop, and the Jonas Brothers are rock. So if we're judging genres by their current big names (which is pretty stupid, actually), Orgasmatron's argument holds.

Fine. Let's say that the Jonas Brothers are rock. There are a great, great many other big-name rock artists (Shinedown, Saving Abel, Papa Roach, Motley Crue, Rise Against, and Guns N' Roses, to name a few), and you must also take them into account when judging the genre.

I never said I agreed with your doctrine of judging a genre by its big names; in fact, I just said last post that it was stupid. I was just pointing out how shitty acts like the Jonas Brothers, Simple Plan, and Nickelback end up representing rock just as much as any artist you've mentioned under your own system - which is why it's dumb.

But, just to indulge you, let's extend your idea to hip hop anyway. I noticed the band listed aren't all from the same era. Lil Wayne and 50 cent aren't the only big names in hip hop now, and they certainly aren't the only big names ever. There's Public Enemy, Dr. Dre, 2Pac, the Wu-tang Clan, Nas, B.I.G, Rakim, KRS-One, to name a few in no particular order. "you must also take them into account when judging the genre."

Lol, I would have said 'because techno is good' but then it would sound like I'm stating a fact when it is my own opinion. I don't really understand your first paragraph, feel free to elaborate... oh by the way, rap, r&b and country all suck.

My first paragraph is pretty straightforward and self-explanatory, actually, but given the level of critical thinking skill you've displayed thus far, I understand. Don't strain yourself.

 

[Jharry5]

Although there is the odd song from the genres I'm about to say, overall I can't stand them. They're Rap, Techno and Reggae. Genres with no real redeeming quality for me are Hip-hop, Dance music and the stuff Disney have brought out recently.
Everything else I can listen to: big fan of metal and all its subgenres, rock, punk, ska... the list goes on.

It's all generalisation though, there are good and bad songs and bands/artists in every genre...

 

[zen5887]

There is no element or characteristic, technical, artistic, or otherwise, that distinguishes pop music from any other genre.

Actually.

Pop music, as a genre is pretty new (mid to late 90s) and is based around catchy melodies (hooks), repetition and consistent structure.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Lol, I would have said 'because techno is good' but then it would sound like I'm stating a fact when it is my own opinion. I don't really understand your first paragraph, feel free to elaborate... oh by the way, rap, r&b and country all suck.

My first paragraph is pretty straightforward and self-explanatory, actually, but given the level of critical thinking skill you've displayed thus far, I understand. Don't strain yourself.

Darn, i was hoping for an answer : /

Well, whatever, keep in mind this is all my opinion and I don't judge other people's opinions(openly).

 

[dontworryaboutit]

I like to think of myself as a student of the world when it comes to music.

I still hate trance and techno though.

 

[Oolinthu]

There is no element or characteristic, technical, artistic, or otherwise, that distinguishes pop music from any other genre.

Actually.

Pop music, as a genre is pretty new (mid to late 90s) and is based around catchy melodies (hooks), repetition and consistent structure.

Actually, according to Wikipedia, pop music developed in the mid 1950s. So, while I do have to concede that "pop music" is a specific genre distinguishable from "popular" music, the distinguishing characteristics are pretty much as I outlined - referring far more to aspects of intended audience, recording/production, and general tendencies toward formula than any specific style or genre. It is, however, worth noting that pop seems to be the somewhat parasitic cousin of rock music, borrowing for much of its history from its development. Which, at the end of the day, reinforces the contention that Jonas Brothers are rock just as much as 50 cent is hip hop.

Lol, I would have said 'because techno is good' but then it would sound like I'm stating a fact when it is my own opinion. I don't really understand your first paragraph, feel free to elaborate... oh by the way, rap, r&b and country all suck.

My first paragraph is pretty straightforward and self-explanatory, actually, but given the level of critical thinking skill you've displayed thus far, I understand. Don't strain yourself.

Darn, i was hoping for an answer : /

Well, whatever, keep in mind this is all my opinion and I don't judge other people's opinions(openly).

See, the problem with that is that it's an assertion, a generalization, a statement, not just an opinion. "I don't like rap" is an opinion. "Rap sucks" is a statement about rap, implying that there is some factual basis upon which not only do you not like rap, but no one should. One I'll ignore, but the other I will attack, as you're essentially attacking me and every other hip hop fan first.

 

[Toaster Hunter]

I have one rule in my car- no rap, no country. NO EXCEPTIONS!! I am not above inflicting bodily harm on you to enforce this point.

 

[ae86gamer]

Metal, of any kind, and country music.

 

[zen5887]

Actually, according to Wikipedia, pop music developed in the mid 1950s. So, while I do have to concede that "pop music" is a specific genre distinguishable from "popular" music, the distinguishing characteristics are pretty much as I outlined - referring far more to aspects of intended audience, recording/production, and general tendencies toward formula than any specific style or genre. It is, however, worth noting that pop seems to be the somewhat parasitic cousin of rock music, borrowing from its development. Which, at the end of the day, reinforced the contention that Jonas Brothers are rock just as much as 50 cent is hip hop.

What Wikipedia says developed in the 50s is 'popular music,' which came along with the birth of Rock'n'Roll, as opposed to 'Pop Music' which came with acts like the Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys and Brittany Spears.

Fair point saying that Pop Music's characteristics are more production and business based, although I still say there are some musical characteristics, such as the almost religious use of the I-vi-ii-V chord progression, and the A-B-A-B form, that define 'pop music'.

When you are talking about stylistic origins, I can see 'Pop music' coming from more the Funk, R&B, Motown side of things, rather then the Rock side. I also see acts like Jonas Brother as Pop Rock, which is pretty much pop (catchy melodies, repetition and consistent structure) with guitars and a bit of balls. You see it in Punk music as well, with bands like Blink 182 - They keep the energy and (somewhat) agressiveness that comes with Punk, and add in the catchy hooks.