MW2: BB chat reveals worse news

[Jonny49]

I'm more excited for single player than the multiplayer really.

 

[Vuljatar]

Their repeated cockslapping of the PC gaming community has downgraded this game from a first-day-purchase to a rental for me.

Do what you want cause a pirate is free...

Oh wait, that's an even better idea!

 

[Captain_Caveman]

ahhh, I love all the bawww CoD6 is making people give, the tears, I love them.


if you dont like it, dont buy it and get on with your life, its only a game.

if you dont like it, keep playing CoD4, you know, the game that you want CoD6 to be?

if you dont like it, make a better game yourself, since obviously I-Dub doesn't know how to and you do.



take your pick of which comment you want, Im just making it standardized from now on since all of them are interchangeable with the current level of bawwww that fanboys are causing.

So is anyone still going to buy this game? I'd be surprised if there is.

Yes I am, pre-order is paid off, gonna get it in 5 days. Im a bit excited ^_^

I will be honest with anyone and eveyrone getting this game, I will hurt you if you spoil the story for me.

are you buying it for PC? are you even a PC gamer? if not, then your post is pointless.

p.s. this is a news post.
and from the reactions in this thread, it's pretty damn important to PC players.

So why dont you keep your condescending holier-than-thou attitude to yourself. if you don't like these posts than don't read them; at least people are discussing a game, you're just complaining about posters. what's more useless?

p.p.s. voicing dissatisfaction is also how you get heard. your attitude is analogous to bend over and take it; you can take it all you want, but just because youre apathetic doesn't mean every1 is.

for one:

Spoiler: CoD4 is also for the PC, just so that you know

now that I can give that "oh snap!" out of the way.

obviously you haven't seen the ammount of "OMG! bawww more MW2 stuff to anger PC Gamerz! BAWWW" threads the escapist has had. so really, you could of just placed your "news" post in one of them, that way the people who actually care would be able to see it without adding a "YAGDT".


my points still stand, no one is forcing you to buy it, and its not like CoD4 is closing its servers, so if you dont like the game, why are you complaining about it?

You still didn't answer my question. Are you buying it for PC? Are you a PC gamer? Do you even understand what the issues mean? How bad P2P would be for KBM? what hitboxes & netcode are or where lag occurs across WANs?

Yes CoD4 was for PC, what does that have to do w/ ANYTHING? CoD4 also had dedicated servers and 32 player matches. 0o

as for this thread, i did a search and it wasn't posted. So i made a thread for it. Where is it posted already huh?

Seriously, STOP TROLLING

Im trolling because im pointing out the obvious, yea, okay.

I was thinking about buying it for the PC, then my graphics card junked out, and yes, already the dedicated server bawwing had come to pass, so now Im going to have to get it for the 360 unless I decide to go get a ps3 since my motherboard hates all types of graphics cards, and spending upwards of $200 to be able to play a $60 game makes no sense when I can already play it on another console. As for lag, get a better internet connection, its not that hard unless your still using mommies 28.8 kbps while living in her basement. as for hitboxes, all of that is hard coded into the game, so I fail to see why having a player hosted server would change it, yet again for lag, get a better computer, better internet connection, or quit whining.


all I can say is when its released there wont be squeakers killing my ears when Im playing. it obvious from how many people "aren't buying it" when MW2 has already beaten out the first two spots on the top 40 list for preorders: http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5514 for the 360 and the ps3 respectively. 2.2 million people actually want to play the game. and at $60 a pop for just the regular edition: 2,200,000x$60=$132,000,000. its safe to say that the $132 mil. has a bigger voice than some disgruntled E-Machines users.

you're trolling BECAUSE YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING NOTHING to the thread. Posting rants that are Off Topic. Know ZERO about what you are talking about. And are intentionally posting inflamatory remarks/insults.

your graphics card junked out? how? did the fan die? were you getting artifacting? it's very rare for a vid card to die; only for the fan to seize. And you can fix that w/ sewing machine oil.

and you obviously dont understand how WANs work. 90% of the lag occurs in the last mile between your ISP and you. P2P effectively DOUBLES that lag, as opposed to a dedicated server which sits directly on a backbone.

p.s. dont lecture me about modems, i was using a hayes 9600 baud when i was 7. the vast majority of broadband users in the US are using DOCSIS 2 cable modems, and w/ those it's exactly like i said 90% of lag occurs between the user and their own ISP. P2P doubles that. Cable network users also share bandwidth across the same lines, so traffic gets congested during peak hours and upload speeds often reach half the speeds they're rated for.

if you're going to be an arrogant prick, at least know what you're talking about.

edit: out of curiosity, do you even know what a hitbox is? and why they're so large on console FPS games? and why using a mouse would make the same hitboxes ridiculous?

 

[Captain_Caveman]

my points still stand, no one is forcing you to buy it, and its not like CoD4 is closing its servers, so if you dont like the game, why are you complaining about it?

Look moron, your "point" isn't worth jack shit. People WANT this game to be good, they were LOOKING FORWARD to it, they LIKE this series, they LOVED CoD4 and they wanted to see an new and improved sequel they could move on to. Instead they're being blatantly fucked in the ass. And you think they shouldn't complain? If you ordered a pizza and when it was brought to the table it was topped with human shit instead of salami, would you complain about that? After all, they're not MAKING you eat it!

Complaining about things you don't like in a game is a gamer's god-given right. We're the motherfucking CUSTOMERS, the industry exists to please US. Yes, it IS an industry and therefore the ultimate objective is to make money, but as they're a luxury product, games exist for gamers, not the other way around. If we don't like something, it's the developers who should shut up and listen, not the gamers who should bend over, take it up the ass and say "THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?"

exactly.

 

[Sonicron]

Well, this effectively killed any and all enthusiasm I ever might have had for the game. Glad I didn't buy into the massive hype. ^^

 

[C0nn0r666]

So is anyone still going to buy this game? I'd be surprised if there is.

Its the most pre-ordered game in history.

Yeah, from gamestop. And I believe they're as reliable as IF is, probably in league as well. I miss when it was EB....

it's still EB and Canada eh

 

[gibboss28]

Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?

Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

...

What?

Its answers like this that make me think this is a port.

 

[Pielikey]

It seems to me Infinity Ward are just trying an experiment.
"I bet we could make a shitload of horrible additions and investment ideas and STILL not lose all our fanboys!"

 

[Robert632]

ok, now even i wouldn't buy that game. also wouldn't it be funny if this was all an allaborate trick, and on the last 3-4 days before MW2 they said"also, all that stuff about multiplayer, it's a lie and is MW1, but better".

 

[Soulkiller3]

Am starting to think EA payed theses gays alot of money to do this to make EA not look so bad, man am starting to forgive EA i use to hate them but this is a whole new level of retardness.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

From the chat:

#LaGgY_42o: What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
#Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Yes, because a ping of 100 is awesome.

It seems like all they can say is: "Trust us! And party up instead of playing in good regular communities. *sigh*

 

[TheHitcher]

What? NO! I won't acce-- ah phew this is only on PC.

*goes back to Xbox*

 

[T-Bone24]

Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?

Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

Since when was "mouse control" a special feature for PCs? That's like saying the console support for gamepads is a special feature.

Graphics settings? On the PC? My oh my, these mighty spacemen of the future better know what they're doing.

/sarcasm

Really, in all honesty I was never going to buy this, but to exclude so many of the things that make PC gaming, well, PC gaming is just a slap in the face.

 

[BeeRye]

Im trolling because im pointing out the obvious, yea, okay.

I was thinking about buying it for the PC, then my graphics card junked out, and yes, already the dedicated server bawwing had come to pass, so now Im going to have to get it for the 360 unless I decide to go get a ps3 since my motherboard hates all types of graphics cards, and spending upwards of $200 to be able to play a $60 game makes no sense when I can already play it on another console. As for lag, get a better internet connection, its not that hard unless your still using mommies 28.8 kbps while living in her basement. as for hitboxes, all of that is hard coded into the game, so I fail to see why having a player hosted server would change it, yet again for lag, get a better computer, better internet connection, or quit whining.

You are simply making it clear that you have no idea of the issues that having non-dedicated servers in games cause.

 

[Apackof12Ninjas]

Im still trying to understand the gripe. So IW doesnt want the PC community to fuck with its game. IE mods. And you guys flip out?

Why?

What does the game lack that mods needs to fill the gap for?

Half Life lacked multiplayer thus multiplayer mods were born.

Mods are born out of necessity. MW2 needs no mods, its a fine game as is.

As for the dedicated servers. IW claims this "new" system is better. So why do you try it before bitching?

Console FPS have been using simliar systems for years and for the most part its been absolutly no problem at all.

Get over yourselves, and either buy and play the damn game , or get a job at Ifiniity ward and actual do something beside whining.

 

[Pingieking]

Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?
Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

...
What?
Its answers like this that make me think this is a port.

That's because it is a port. They had to take time out of their precious day to put in mouse and keyboard support. The Activision executives thought that was kind of a waste of their time (because now they can't force PC gamers to buy a controller for the game), and told all the IW programmers to go back being depressed and think about their job security issues.

Im still trying to understand the gripe. So IW doesnt want the PC community to fuck with its game. IE mods. And you guys flip out?
Why?
What does the game lack that mods needs to fill the gap for?
Half Life lacked multiplayer thus multiplayer mods were born.
Mods are born out of necessity. MW2 needs no mods, its a fine game as is.
As for the dedicated servers. IW claims this "new" system is better. So why do you try it before bitching?
Console FPS have been using simliar systems for years and for the most part its been absolutly no problem at all.
Get over yourselves, and either buy and play the damn game , or get a job at Ifiniity ward and actual do something beside whining.

A fine game can always used more improvements. Also, I will bet you my year's salary that I can find something within that "fine game" that I would like to see changed/fixed/improved (in fact, I can do it right now; I want lean to be included). I don't really understand why IW won't let us mod their game. There's no way that they'd lose anything, and they stand the chance of using modder created content for their own profit.

As for their new multiplayer system; it is almost techinically impossible for the new system to be better than dedicated servers. This is just a simple math problem involving connection speeds, and the solution for ping is always higher for IW's system.

The 9 vs 9 thing kind of kills this game for me. I was actually hoping that they'd up the number of players, seeing how MAG is already aiming for 256 on a console (on the PS3, of all things, with it's sub-par online infrastructure), and I had so much fun with the 100+ vs 100+ vs 100+ 3-way battles of Planetside.

 

[Ancientgamer]

You said IWnet was created to help stop piracy, what do you say about the Xbox 360 version leaked and shared on torrent sites?
Vince-IW: IWnet was designed to make the MP experience on PC easier and more balanced.

Has IWnet been tested in European settings? My clan plays european leagues and we got ppl from Eastern europe, UK and Sweden meeting in the same match. How is this going to play out considering siginificant differences in Bandwith and connection qualities between players. Will host player always have the ping advantage. Can a match be hosted by 'third' person, not taking part in the match?
Mackey-IW: Players do not control who hosts.

What are the current steps being taken in regard to active blocking measures that some major ISPs have taken regarding Peer 2 Peer connections, such as what Comcast does?
Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.

Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.

Will there be a multiplayer PC demo shortly after release? The PC community is largely skeptical at best right now and with no ability to trade-in or rent, this is a real gamble for our wallets.
Vince-IW: No plans for a demo currently. We are still working on finishing the PC game right now (yes, I know... we need to get done!)

s there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?
Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Uhhgg, I can't even bother to comment on all of these now, I think the ludicracy speaks for itself.

 

[cyber_andyy]

Modern Fuck-with-the-fans-fare 2

I predict that the next call of duty release will sell tiny PC amounts. That, and Infinity Ward will lose ALOT of of money of the years.

 

[MR T3D]

Im still trying to understand the gripe. So IW doesn't want the PC community to fuck with its game. IE mods. And you guys flip out?

Why?

What does the game lack that mods needs to fill the gap for?

Half Life lacked multiplayer thus multiplayer mods were born.

Mods are born out of necessity. MW2 needs no mods, its a fine game as is.

As for the dedicated servers. IW claims this "new" system is better. So why do you try it before bitching?

Console FPS have been using similar systems for years and for the most part its been absolutely no problem at all.

Get over yourselves, and either buy and play the damn game , or get a job at Infinity ward and actual do something beside whining.

holy shit. you must have never played a good TC of a game, I'm talking stuff like desert combat, project reality, some of the better CoD mods, etc. A well made mod is like playing a new game... FOR FREE! its not so much filling a gap, as it is: this game is great, BUT i think it would be much better if, say feature A did effect B, and rather than whine for a patch, you modify the game.

Haven't you ever player a board game with some custom rules? what if Parker bros. said you're not allow to mess with the game? you'd call BS on that, right?

And before you say get a job making games, consider that people whom make really good mods CAN BE PICKED UP BY THE COMPANY FOR SEQUELS, the DICE and Desert Combat team being a good example, during BF2's development.

MODS ARE NOT BORN OUT OF NECESSITY, but out of a desire to play a game differently. I OWN THE BASIC GAME< WHY THE HELL CAN'T I CHANGE THE RULES FOR PLAYING WITH MY FRIENDS, especially if i feel its more fun this way.



Also, its simple physics and logic that dictate that P2P<Dedicated Servers.
And i notice the difference between P2P systems on the 360 and dedicated servers, mainly that it is unfair (for the enemy) when, say, i pull host in a game because the system thinks i'm the best host.

And really, IW is an asshole developer now abandoning their original fanbase for more money. All respect for them has been lost with the last month.
PS: spelling was fixed in your post.