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rossatdi

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dwightsteel said:
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I'm struggling not to point and laugh. Six words: "Can I buy you a drink/coffee." Intention made clear. Done.

I was shy. Then I decided to throw myself into situation anyway. Bang, problem solved. No gurus necessary.

I don't think you're worthy to have Superman as your avatar buddy, self-help gurus are for chumps.
It's great that you've been able to break out of your shyness, but not everyone can think as proactively as you. No one said you had to believe anything I said. Some people need some help gaining perspective, and that what I'm trying to help with. If you're gonna be an ass, and troll, then do it on someone else's thread.
I think people that come onto a games forum to give tips on picking up girls needs an ego trip.
I think if you would have read my first post, you'll know I've made quite clear as to why I've started this thread. This isn't my first venture into this territory. I didn't come onto this forum to do this, this is a byproduct of all the other romance forums I've contributed to. Think what you will. I knew when I posted this that some people were going to question me. I'm allowing people to judge me by the merit of my advice. You've voiced your opinion, so please, move on.
I'd just like to point out you're not giving advice on 'romance' you're giving advice on how to pick up women at bars. Largely different things in my opinion.
 

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You wanna know whats sad? I can't seem to find the gamer/geeky types of girls anywhere I go, and I live near pretty big city with lots of gamer/geeky hangouts, and it seems they are all hiding :(.
Same here. All the geeky guys in my city are hiding as well. Though we have no geeky hangouts. There is nothing for our kind to gather and chat about important things eg. gaming.
I should start a personals service for gamers/geeks. I bet I would make a fortune.
I bet you would, a website to connect us lonely geeks to other lonely geeks and girls that are one of us. I would probably use it, but I already found a girl that is preparing for the zombie apocalypse and plays games ( even if they are N64 ), must now ask out!
 

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It is strange isn't it? That is why I get so damn frustrated. Or I'm looney. I design clothes and watch (and squee over) chick flicks yet I play CoD4 until the early hours of the morning and my favourite movie is the Empire Strikes Back. Ok yeah I'm nuts.
Perfect, where do i sign up? :)
Oi! Get back to bed. You are supposed to be sick....just sign here. *hands a napkin*
 

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rossatdi said:
dwightsteel said:
rossatdi said:
dwightsteel said:
rossatdi said:
I'm struggling not to point and laugh. Six words: "Can I buy you a drink/coffee." Intention made clear. Done.

I was shy. Then I decided to throw myself into situation anyway. Bang, problem solved. No gurus necessary.

I don't think you're worthy to have Superman as your avatar buddy, self-help gurus are for chumps.
It's great that you've been able to break out of your shyness, but not everyone can think as proactively as you. No one said you had to believe anything I said. Some people need some help gaining perspective, and that what I'm trying to help with. If you're gonna be an ass, and troll, then do it on someone else's thread.
I think people that come onto a games forum to give tips on picking up girls needs an ego trip.
I think if you would have read my first post, you'll know I've made quite clear as to why I've started this thread. This isn't my first venture into this territory. I didn't come onto this forum to do this, this is a byproduct of all the other romance forums I've contributed to. Think what you will. I knew when I posted this that some people were going to question me. I'm allowing people to judge me by the merit of my advice. You've voiced your opinion, so please, move on.
I'd just like to point out you're not giving advice on 'romance' you're giving advice on how to pick up women at bars. Largely different things in my opinion.
Hmm, so I mention bars in one post, and you assume that's all my advice is good for? You're clearly doing your homework. I guess all the other posts, when I address people's specific problems with certain people don't count then?
 

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I need a big neon sign that says, "Beautiful geek wanting nerdy love" with the Han/Leia theme song playing in the background while I wear the slave outfit. I think that is the only way to do it.
Do watch out for these things then:
 

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Major_Sam said:
xmetatr0nx said:
Major_Sam said:
It is strange isn't it? That is why I get so damn frustrated. Or I'm looney. I design clothes and watch (and squee over) chick flicks yet I play CoD4 until the early hours of the morning and my favourite movie is the Empire Strikes Back. Ok yeah I'm nuts.
Perfect, where do i sign up? :)
Oi! Get back to bed. You are supposed to be sick....just sign here. *hands a napkin*
I would ask but.. I cant.. I have lives to save. *unbuttons shirt to reveal superhero suit*
 

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Okay, I'll do this, but only because this is the internet and no one knows me, and a certain friend never logs on.
Here it goes, I know this girl that I really like. We started sitting together at lunch ( actually she came and sat with me ) and we would talk the entire lunch period. But, I never had the courage to ask her out. She is also friends with my best friend, but as a friend only. There is another guy that is after her, but me and a couple of other guys think he is not serious, since he is often after several girls at once.
There is a county fair ( I wonder you brits and australians have that kind of stuff. ) at the end of the month, and I am thinking of trying to get together then.
So my question is this: how is the best way to go about it ( never dated before ) in a way that doesn't spell doom if I fail. I'm afraid if I don't show any signs of wanting to date, I will fall into the trap of her liking me as a friend, and that's it.
It's true. If you don't make a move, someone else will. That's nature my friend. Before I determine what I would take as a next step, tell me some more about the nature of your friendship. You said she sat by you first. Tell me what kind of things you talk about. How intimate has she been with you? Does she tell you about the kind of guys she likes?
 

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Hmm, so I mention bars in one post, and you assume that's all my advice is good for? You're clearly doing your homework. I guess all the other posts, when I address people's specific problems with certain people don't count then?
You're right love guru, my humble apologise. You're only out their trying to help everyone improve their 'game',

I just started to understand the necessary concepts to "get the girl".
Please elaborate oh wise master. Would it be a combination of confidence, conversation skills and being a relatively nice/wealthy/interesting person be any chance?

You figured all this out during high school? Around the age of 15-16? I'm shocked, almost as if, that's exactly when you're supposed to be developing those normal social skills. It isn't a game, it is a natural part of human behavioural patterns.
 

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rossatdi said:
If the intention of your posts is to be seen as an asshole then good job. I don't think many people care about what you have to say on this matter (as is clear from the fact you are the only negative replier).

I personally agree with the gist of what's been said. Most peoples issues is confidence more than anything else.
 

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rossatdi said:
dwightsteel said:
Hmm, so I mention bars in one post, and you assume that's all my advice is good for? You're clearly doing your homework. I guess all the other posts, when I address people's specific problems with certain people don't count then?
You're right love guru, my humble apologise. You're only out their trying to help everyone improve their 'game',

I just started to understand the necessary concepts to "get the girl".
Please elaborate oh wise master. Would it be a combination of confidence, conversation skills and being a relatively nice/wealthy/interesting person be any chance?

You figured all this out during high school? Around the age of 15-16? I'm shocked, almost as if, that's exactly when you're supposed to be developing those normal social skills. It isn't a game, it is a natural part of human behavioural patterns.
Firstly, the "Game" I allude to is in reference to a set of skills for proactively talking to, and eventually gaining the interest of a person you're interested in.

Secondly, midway through high school, I started to understand that there can be a methodology for confidence building, and developing conversational skills. Yes, a lot of guys develop these skills in a natural progression, but many do not. Some people need help. If they didn't, then no one would have come here, posting questions.

You talk about confidence the way people shouldn't be. No one can just be confident, and people who aren't naturally very confident don't find much use in just "manning up". There are ways to build confidence. There are ways to develop conversational and social skills. Again, if you don't agree with me, you don't have to post, but please stop trolling my thread.
 

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Machines Are Us said:
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If the intention of your posts is to be seen as an asshole then good job. I don't think many people care about what you have to say on this matter (as is clear from the fact you are the only negative replier).

I personally agree with the gist of what's been said. Most peoples issues is confidence more than anything else.
So society needs people going around teaching people how to fix it? If you're too shy to fix it yourself, you're probably too shy to follow advice to fix it. Just all seems like useless advice that serves to inflate this guy's ego.

Simply put if you don't have the confidence to ask the girl out, you don't deserve the girl. One can only grow a pair, you can't be taught to have them.
 

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rossatdi said:
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rossatdi said:
If the intention of your posts is to be seen as an asshole then good job. I don't think many people care about what you have to say on this matter (as is clear from the fact you are the only negative replier).

I personally agree with the gist of what's been said. Most peoples issues is confidence more than anything else.
So society needs people going around teaching people how to fix it? If you're too shy to fix it yourself, you're probably too shy to follow advice to fix it. Just all seems like useless advice that serves to inflate this guy's ego.

Simply put if you don't have the confidence to ask the girl out, you don't deserve the girl. One can only grow a pair, you can't be taught to have them.
Attack me if you want, but please, leave the people posting here alone. They didn't come here to be torn down by somebody who doesn't care. Please stop.
 

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dwightsteel said:
You talk about confidence the way people shouldn't be. No one can just be confident, and people who aren't naturally very confident don't find much use in just "manning up". There are ways to build confidence. There are ways to develop conversational and social skills. Again, if you don't agree with me, you don't have to post, but please stop trolling my thread.
Alright, I'll leave you to your love surgery out of a point of not being a troll. However, I'd like to point out that most self-help boils down to either i) practice/repetition or ii) confidence.

And yes you can just decide to be more confident one day. Whether you can feel it or not the only person that decides how you deal with a situation is you. Or at the worst you can decide to start being confident in your shyness and work from it, with practice it comes. No tricks.

If you really want to prove me wrong give me a trick to build confidence in this situation:

I've been dragged to a party by a friend. I don't really know anyone and the person that has brought me has disappeared. I see a girl I really like but I don't know how to approach her. Help me love guru.
 

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rossatdi said:
dwightsteel said:
You talk about confidence the way people shouldn't be. No one can just be confident, and people who aren't naturally very confident don't find much use in just "manning up". There are ways to build confidence. There are ways to develop conversational and social skills. Again, if you don't agree with me, you don't have to post, but please stop trolling my thread.
Alright, I'll leave you to your love surgery out of a point of not being a troll. However, I'd like to point out that most self-help boils down to either i) practice/repetition or ii) confidence.

And yes you can just decide to be more confident one day. Whether you can feel it or not the only person that decides how you deal with a situation is you. Or at the worst you can decide to start being confident in your shyness and work from it, with practice it comes. No tricks.

If you really want to prove me wrong give me a trick to build confidence in this situation:

I've been dragged to a party by a friend. I don't really know anyone and the person that has brought me has disappeared. I see a girl I really like but I don't know how to approach her. Help me love guru.
I didn't say there were any tricks. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure earlier on I said there were NO TRICKS. At best, I gave someone an exercise that will help put them on the path to being more confident. You say it yourself "with practice it comes". Thats exactly what I've been preaching, and completely contradictory to your first sentence in that paragraph.
 

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rossatdi said:
Machines Are Us said:
rossatdi said:
If the intention of your posts is to be seen as an asshole then good job. I don't think many people care about what you have to say on this matter (as is clear from the fact you are the only negative replier).

I personally agree with the gist of what's been said. Most peoples issues is confidence more than anything else.
So society needs people going around teaching people how to fix it? If you're too shy to fix it yourself, you're probably too shy to follow advice to fix it. Just all seems like useless advice that serves to inflate this guy's ego.

Simply put if you don't have the confidence to ask the girl out, you don't deserve the girl. One can only grow a pair, you can't be taught to have them.
The ironic thing is that the way you talk about it sounds more like a game than the way dwightsteel does.

I agree with your points, but you are saying what dwight says with different wording, you criticise him for having an ego because he is offering advice but then immediately give advice of your own.

My point being that you are just as egotistical (if not more so) than he is, because unlike you he has already said "you don't have to take my advice" whereas you talk like you are an expert.
 

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Machines Are Us said:
rossatdi said:
Machines Are Us said:
rossatdi said:
If the intention of your posts is to be seen as an asshole then good job. I don't think many people care about what you have to say on this matter (as is clear from the fact you are the only negative replier).

I personally agree with the gist of what's been said. Most peoples issues is confidence more than anything else.
So society needs people going around teaching people how to fix it? If you're too shy to fix it yourself, you're probably too shy to follow advice to fix it. Just all seems like useless advice that serves to inflate this guy's ego.

Simply put if you don't have the confidence to ask the girl out, you don't deserve the girl. One can only grow a pair, you can't be taught to have them.


The ironic thing is that the way you talk about it sounds more like a game than the way dwightsteel does.

I agree with your points, but you are saying what dwight says with different wording, you criticise him for having an ego because he is offering advice but then immediately give advice of your own.

My point being that you are just as egotistical (if not more so) than he is, because unlike you he has already said "you don't have to take my advice" whereas you talk like you are an expert.
What I'm attacking is this imaginary pedestal of advice he's put himself on. He's already said that practice is the key, so basically his entire 'I've helped 50 specific cases find meaningful relationships!" can be boiled down to:

1) Confidence is key.
2) If you don't have, get it.
3) By practice.

These things are standard for most things in life. I don't get how any of his advice qualifies as worth listening to as it is common sense.
 

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I laugh at the asking random people on the internet for realtionship help.

I will only read through each post mockingly and write down any good advice ironically for future purposes...