Indeed it does but I still identify with omni/pan more than bi and I like giving the explanations to it. I don't mind :3Simriel said:
Odd Bisexual to Gay Escapist Demographic
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One reason a lot of bisexual people are very... Exuberant, about it is partially because of all the people leaping on the "OMG LOOKIT ME I'M BI FUCK YOU THIS IS WHO I AM" bandwagon; so many people did that, and so it's the classic boy-who-cried-wolf scenario and the legitimate bisexuals have to be a bit more insistent if they want people to believe them. That, and one of the classic stereotypes of being bi is being extremely OTT...
Personally, I tend to go more with the Bi The Way [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BiTheWay] strategy; one of my closest friends didn't know I was bi a year after I'd come out, and, because I thought I'd already told her, I hadn't particularly brought it up in conversation much.
Still, being bi has no relation on anything other than sexuality, so I do think it's a bit silly bringing it up in totally unrelated circumstances...
Personally, I tend to go more with the Bi The Way [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BiTheWay] strategy; one of my closest friends didn't know I was bi a year after I'd come out, and, because I thought I'd already told her, I hadn't particularly brought it up in conversation much.
Still, being bi has no relation on anything other than sexuality, so I do think it's a bit silly bringing it up in totally unrelated circumstances...
Maybe, just maybe, because those people are bisexual? I know it's a crazy concept but yes, there are some people out there on the Escapist who would fall into the sexual orientation of "bisexual". As for them bringing it up, I've never seen people bring up their orientation (bi-, homo-, hetero- or otherwise) outside of threads that pertain to sexual orientation whether it's asking what their preference is or something like "If you could go gay who would you choose?".
As for why you see them more, either there actually are more (surprise, surprise again) or you just hear from them more.
As for why you see them more, either there actually are more (surprise, surprise again) or you just hear from them more.
THIS.DeadlyYellow said:
See-----> Metrosexuality
I feel like I almost have to BECOME homophobic to combat the obnoxious pussification of the young men around me. Seriously, I'm tired of it. It's almost as if being a stereotypical guy who likes cars, sports, and guns (even if not in exclusion of everything else) is somehow "unevolved." I hate emo-styled hair, overly-tight jeans, tiny shirts, pointy shoes.
Metrosexuality is just an attempt (by exactly what combination of people and forces I am unsure) to effeminize men into some sort of sickening hybrid of uselessness and fashion-obsession.
Here's a tip, fellas. Girls don't want you to be "sensitive" in the sense that you're emotionally feminine. They want you to be "sensitive" to THEIR emotions and needs, and ON OCCASION, talk about your feelings (but only when they prompt you).
As a disclaimer, I have no problem with gay people or legitimate bisexuals. Although the thought of gay sex is disgusting.
I would totally expect that. The idea that sexuality is a left/right switch, to me, seems ridiculous.
I imagine it as more of a line with straight and gay at either end, with most people residing at various points on the line, mostly near the ends. For instance, I am, without a doubt, straight. I find the idea of having sexual relations with another man fairly unpleasant. And yet, I am totally comfortable with thinking that some men are very good looking, and in some very extreme cases inflict the same feelings on me that I might get from an attractive woman.
I Most bisexual people I know prefer one gender but that does not mean they dislike the other. The biggest 'big manly straight men' are often so opposed to gays because they secretly harbour the kind of feelings I described above.
The Ancient Greeks had widespread, for want of a better term, man love. It did not always involve sex, but they were a lot more open about how they felt. Modern women are pretty comfortable with each other in the same way, compared to men. I find it difficult to believe that we have changed so much in such a little time; rather society tells us what is and is not mainstream and because the urge for most is not large, we play along.
Might just be making all that up though...
I imagine it as more of a line with straight and gay at either end, with most people residing at various points on the line, mostly near the ends. For instance, I am, without a doubt, straight. I find the idea of having sexual relations with another man fairly unpleasant. And yet, I am totally comfortable with thinking that some men are very good looking, and in some very extreme cases inflict the same feelings on me that I might get from an attractive woman.
I Most bisexual people I know prefer one gender but that does not mean they dislike the other. The biggest 'big manly straight men' are often so opposed to gays because they secretly harbour the kind of feelings I described above.
The Ancient Greeks had widespread, for want of a better term, man love. It did not always involve sex, but they were a lot more open about how they felt. Modern women are pretty comfortable with each other in the same way, compared to men. I find it difficult to believe that we have changed so much in such a little time; rather society tells us what is and is not mainstream and because the urge for most is not large, we play along.
Might just be making all that up though...
This may sound insulting, for which I apologise, but, I find taht some, if not a lot of people who cliam to be bisexual (this is not on the escapist per say, just people in general), are just straight or gay, but are a little 'inexperienced' so they don't really know what they mean.
Ah the conversation, quite goodJulianking93 said:Don't get me started on those assholes.
I don't take it as anything other than intolerant pieces of shit who apparently hate me so much that they feel the need to throw shit at me from their cars and even in two instances, attempt running me over but... fuck it, I look on the bright side; at least I'm not dead >.>
But I thank you for support like that. It really means a lot :3
Hehe, that sounds like a fun conversation. How did that go?
Me being quite oblivious didn't even notice he was gay even though he had been functioning as my chair for some time, I thought it was friendly and funny because we were two drunk guys.
He thought differently but that slowly led up to the conversation, which was quite insightful since the only gay people I've met before were...well gay and with that I mean flamboyantly so.
Was really fun when someone else came along asking me if I was gay, me replying ''no man'' you should've seen the look on my gay friends face xD
But it was okay after we talked about it, and I explained that I actually have a girlfriend.
But am still struggling a bit around the Bisexual thing.
Since I did like the guy, and I know I am capable of loving men, just not sure in the sexual sense.
So yeah, got his views on it and shared a good, funny conversation.
Good evening all together, am actually now talking to him on Ebuddy xD
Now, I'm not trying to deny that there may be people who call themselves bi to "fit in" or whatever it is, but... it always makes me really uncomfortable to see people defining other peoples' experiences and feelings for them. Maybe they are unsure, or experimenting, but if, at that very moment in their lives, they identify as bi, then who is anyone to contradict them on that?
For a part of my teenage years, I thought I might be bi. I was a very shy and introverted person, so I never had an intimate relationship back then, which contributed to my confusion even though I was only really attracted to girls I knew... Mind you, the only time I ever told anyone was also the first time I got completely drunk XD And what I'm told I said about it didn't even reflect what I actually felt, so starting from then on I started feeling that maybe I was just confused about my identity... By now I'm pretty sure I'm straight, but that doesn't change what I felt back then, and if someone had told me I was "just trying to fit in" or whatever, that would probably have annoyed me a lot.
One thing to consider, though... if people are getting annoyed with whoever might be stating their identity to "fit in" or whatever it is, here's what to do: Let us, as a society, stop making such a huge deal about people's sexuality (I know it's easy to say, but it starts with individuals, because the media certainly won't change if no one else does). I have a friend who was surprised when I barely reacted when she told me she was bi, because she's used to people acting really surprised or uncomfortable. Sexuality can be interesting, it can be fun to discuss, but the various attitudes most people have towards it typically put it out of our reach, if that makes any sense. Most of the time it's either dirty, or sensastionalistic. It doesn't feel simply human, and it's rarely portrayed in a normal manner.
If that were different, well, we'd be a completely different society XD but we also wouldn't have any of the claims of bisexuality which some of you are accusing. Again, I'm not trying to say that those don't exist, only that it's a dangerous thing to pass judgement on other people's experiences.
/Convoluted rant
For a part of my teenage years, I thought I might be bi. I was a very shy and introverted person, so I never had an intimate relationship back then, which contributed to my confusion even though I was only really attracted to girls I knew... Mind you, the only time I ever told anyone was also the first time I got completely drunk XD And what I'm told I said about it didn't even reflect what I actually felt, so starting from then on I started feeling that maybe I was just confused about my identity... By now I'm pretty sure I'm straight, but that doesn't change what I felt back then, and if someone had told me I was "just trying to fit in" or whatever, that would probably have annoyed me a lot.
One thing to consider, though... if people are getting annoyed with whoever might be stating their identity to "fit in" or whatever it is, here's what to do: Let us, as a society, stop making such a huge deal about people's sexuality (I know it's easy to say, but it starts with individuals, because the media certainly won't change if no one else does). I have a friend who was surprised when I barely reacted when she told me she was bi, because she's used to people acting really surprised or uncomfortable. Sexuality can be interesting, it can be fun to discuss, but the various attitudes most people have towards it typically put it out of our reach, if that makes any sense. Most of the time it's either dirty, or sensastionalistic. It doesn't feel simply human, and it's rarely portrayed in a normal manner.
If that were different, well, we'd be a completely different society XD but we also wouldn't have any of the claims of bisexuality which some of you are accusing. Again, I'm not trying to say that those don't exist, only that it's a dangerous thing to pass judgement on other people's experiences.
/Convoluted rant
I'm not sure. I'm bisexual, but I don't have any insight into this other than the following - many people (gays included) have tried to make out bisexuals to be non-existent, claiming that they are closet gays, etc. In the past few years I've seen activists engaging with people like Dan Savage (who used to believe that but is hopefully opening his mind) and the general public, writing books, etc., letting the world know that 1) we exist and 2) no, we're not closeted or confused gays - we're bisexual.Chefodeath said:
You sound a bit annoyed by it, but I can assure you it's far more annoying to have your sexual identity ignored or disdained than it is to occasionally read a forum post by somebody opening up to being bisexual. It's a part of coming out of the closet for some people. You don't have to tell people you're straight because when you say nothing, it's assumed that you are indeed straight.
My wife, my male partner and I have been in a polyfidelitious trio now for over 10 years, living together for the past five years. We share a house, bank account, and pretty much everything a married couple would share. We're still cautious as to who we let know in real life because it's not extremely accepted as of yet. Letting people know in a "safe" venue - for example, online - is often the only outlet people have.
As long as they're not describing their sexual exploits in gruesome detail, I don't see why it would bother anybody. Saying "I'm a gay" or "I'm a bisexual" gamer should carry no more emotional weight than somebody saying "I'm a black" or "I'm a white" gamer - things you can't tell about somebody from a post, but do help shape their identity. Sexuality becomes important in gaming as you could see from the outcry over including gay relationship options in Dragon Age 2.
I hope that clarifies some things for you.
Oh good! So it's not just me who feels that way? Because I don't know the age of everyone who announces it, so I just assume that a good portion of those are hormonal teenagers who actually haven't figured out their true sexual preferences yet.DeadlyYellow said:
I haven't seen much of that and I only throw out my sexual preferences when it is relevant(ie: dating/sexuality/sex topics) otherwise it doesn't come up. I don't feel the need to shove it in other people's faces. I think its because the community as a whole is generally accepting as it is and they get persecuted so much for their sexuality that they feel they have to throw it into everything and push it in everyone's faces. *shrugs*
Totally true. I saw that all through high school and beyond. And as sad as it is, even I had my "I'm bi" period in my teenage life. It's just a little something else to make you seem more "unique" than the rest. I also find the people who aren't actually bi are the ones who loudly proclaim that they are as often as possible, this way we all know just how unique they are.Cheery Lunatic said:
This is going to get me a lot of hate, but whenever I hear the I'm insertwhateverwordsexual I get kind of annoyed.
It is possible that they're doing it to feel empowered or just above you, which I doubt. Although if I read one more "what's your preference in women thread" and find I'm asexual by 20,000 people tears will stream down my face.
Other possible reason: Young and confused? Sometimes bisexuality is legitimately a phase, if however people are older then it's safe to assume they just like a different cup of tea.
It is possible that they're doing it to feel empowered or just above you, which I doubt. Although if I read one more "what's your preference in women thread" and find I'm asexual by 20,000 people tears will stream down my face.
Other possible reason: Young and confused? Sometimes bisexuality is legitimately a phase, if however people are older then it's safe to assume they just like a different cup of tea.
Wow people here sure are cynical. Can't be that those who claim to be bisexual actually are, right? No, they have to be band-wagoners or people who are trying to expand their chances (yeah, good luck with that). I'm guessing that the heterosexuals are really too timid to actually explore their true sexuality and the homosexuals want to feel persecuted or something? Because it can't be that these people are what they actually claim to be.
I see. Well... I have to admit, I find that extremely cute XDrokkolpo said:Ah the conversation, quite good
Me being quite oblivious didn't even notice he was gay even though he had been functioning as my chair for some time, I thought it was friendly and funny because we were two drunk guys.
He thought differently but that slowly led up to the conversation, which was quite insightful since the only gay people I've met before were...well gay and with that I mean flamboyantly so.
Was really fun when someone else came along asking me if I was gay, me replying ''no man'' you should've seen the look on my gay friends face xD
But it was okay after we talked about it, and I explained that I actually have a girlfriend.
But am still struggling a bit around the Bisexual thing.
Since I did like the guy, and I know I am capable of loving men, just not sure in the sexual sense.
So yeah, got his views on it and shared a good, funny conversation.
Good evening all together, am actually now talking to him on Ebuddy xD
But yeah, I get what you mean about being unsure of the bisexual thing. It's just that for me, I realised when I was around 13 or 14 that I was attracted to both sexes, then later found out that I really just didn't care. Deep friendships, regardless of gender could turn into romances for me, at least on my side. Unfortunately not everyone is bi so what are you gonna do?
But that sounds like a fun conversation and one to go into further with that guy if you haven't already. Who knows? You might just find some things you didn't know about yourself. :3
Come on now, you can't deny that the Escapist is a forum for the more "intelligent" gamer. I think this kind of atmosphere better appeals to people of that demographic for some reason, it just seems a lot more welcoming than other gaming forums. Plus there are a lot fewer trolls and homophobes here than you would find on other, bigger gaming sites. So maybe it's that.
But then again, I'm bi and I came here originally just to watch LoadingReadyRun. So maybe I'm wrong.
But then again, I'm bi and I came here originally just to watch LoadingReadyRun. So maybe I'm wrong.