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Kriptonite

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Eh, it happens all the time. People do it subconsciously constantly. It's not something you can change, it's human nature. It sucks but it happens, all you can do is ignore your judgments and proceed as normal.
 

magnuslion

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I think its weird that you and your class mates dont seem to have anything better to do than talk about how weird other kids are.

there was a time gamers where thought of as "weird kids". I miss those times.

In short, your classmates need to focus less on others, and more on themselves.
 

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I find it lame that the OP has sort of admitted he was wrong about 100 times and people are still flaming him for it. Yeesh what else is he meant to do?!

On topic, it's pretty ridiculous to think you don't judge people on appearances. The difference lies in how you act towards them. Basically, be nice to people. It'd be rather unpleasant if some weird looking bloke with a mohawk thought of you "oh he looks alright. Shame when I talked to him he turned out to be a prick." That's much worse.
 

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Disaster Button said:
TelHybrid said:
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TelHybrid said:
Sounds like you and the rest of your classmates are judgmental arseholes. Grow up.

Also maybe there's a good reason he keeps to himself... to avoid being some superficial immature brat.

One day when you grow up and finish school you might get a clue about how the world works, instead of your silly little playground politics.
Responsed like this really make me sad. As they're taking what I said and exploding it into an extreme case and basically scream of someone who was a victim of sometihng similar but not related to this and want to take revenge by being brave on an internet forum. Basically, get over it
No I just have a low tolerance for superficial people, otherwise I give people a chance and talk to them.
Good thing I gave him a chance too rather than just leaving it at my prejudgement then
Oh how charitable of you...
 

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I judge people by their actions towards me. Hasn't failed me yet.
Quick question. What if you see someone, at work or at school who is a real ass to some people, but not to you?

Isn't it safe to say that he's an ass?
 

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TelHybrid said:
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TelHybrid said:
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TelHybrid said:
Sounds like you and the rest of your classmates are judgmental arseholes. Grow up.

Also maybe there's a good reason he keeps to himself... to avoid being some superficial immature brat.

One day when you grow up and finish school you might get a clue about how the world works, instead of your silly little playground politics.
Responsed like this really make me sad. As they're taking what I said and exploding it into an extreme case and basically scream of someone who was a victim of sometihng similar but not related to this and want to take revenge by being brave on an internet forum. Basically, get over it
No I just have a low tolerance for superficial people, otherwise I give people a chance and talk to them.
Good thing I gave him a chance too rather than just leaving it at my prejudgement then
Oh how charitable of you...
Not really. It's just what anyone should do.
 

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Ugh. Look by no means. No means at all am I judging him and leaivng it at that. Sure I saw him and thought he's a bit weird looking but I didn't blank him out my life or make fun about him behind his back. The most I've said is sometihng like "He looks a bit weird" which I still stand by.

I did actually talk to him and while I know he's not as weird as he looked, he was a little bit. Nor will I not talk to him again or be rude to him. I'm not like that.

So hate me if you want, it's your call. But I really don't want you to hate me because you think I'm some shallow dick who hates a guy on his looks. Because I don't hate him for it in the slightest nor will I treat him any differently
Err you laughed at him, with your entire class. Do you know how much that didn't help him?
Go and apologies to him for making him feel like crap
No we dislike you because you did judge him and laughed at him and call someone different weird
No you shouldn't treat him any differently, thats the problem we have with you
Ugh, I'm sorry but none of you have any idea what ye're talking about.

Listen, school is a horrible place - kids are mean. They can't help it.
If you want to stand out and be individual, that's your own choice. But you have to be willing to put up with the downsides of being individual: you are more noticeable and that makes you a target.

You can put up with it, or cut the crap and express your individuality outside of school.

Or, if you're lucky, find a group of like-minded people who can make the days bareable, maybe even fun.

Seriously, I know what I'm talking about.
I did the latter, but I wasn't "lucky", just smart enough to know people and actually talk to like-minded people, luck has nothing to do with it, if you're fed up with others taking the piss then you do something about it, it's called affirmative action, not sure what this "luck" is you're on about, I don't get "lucky" I make things happen.
 

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You see, I think I would end up screwing with you. I'm in college so there is a vast amount of time between all of my classes. So I go to one dressed up as some stereotype and then the next dressed up as something different(Think of changing from goth to chav in under 3 hours).

It's always great to see the different responses you get from this.

(I tried it two different ways, acting like the character I'm dressed up as in class and not doing anything to make me stick out other than my clothing. I'm sad to say I ended up with generally the same comments from both tests for each individual stereotype)
 

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This isn't new. I say the same thing I always do, people are ignorant, insensitive, selfish piles of insecurity and superficial bullshit, they treat other people (especially people who don't conform to their shittyness),ironically , like shit, and I still think they would be better off dead
Even more ironically what you just said could be considered the exact same thing as what you described. But before things get more outta hand I tihnk Ima leave as what I tried (but failed as I suck with words) to convey has been lost under tons of hate replies claiming I'm a shallow, worthless, sack of nothing, etc, when I'm not actually like that.

But then again someone who was like that wouldn't admit it. This really runs a lot deeper than what I was originally trying to convey.

But if you wanna pick this up in private mesages I'll happily oblige, even though you probably just want to insult me more

No I'm not going to private message you about this, I don't know you and I'm not talking about you. I'm not judging anyone by just looking at them, what I'm doing is analyzing the people I know something about, and most of them show evidence of these qualities. I don't see what's wrong with expressing my feelings of dislike for the human race when you put forward a perfect example and ask my opinion of it. You want a more straight forward answer?, okay, I don't think it's alright to whisper assumptions behind a persons back, it's disrespectful, it's immature and it's arrogant. I think I'll end this with a couple of quotes,

"don't criticize what you can't understand" - Bob Dylan

"you're shit, I'm shit, the world is shit, and if your sitting there thinking "yes it's true everyone is shit but me" you are a double bacon shit with large fries mister shit face" - Ben Croshaw aka Yahtzee
 

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I'm a very judgemental person myself... except against "Normies" people who would rather shun anything or anyone different than the norm than accept a bit of extra flavour into their life. people who assume if you wear a different sorta hat than everyone else that you're a weirdo...

I find them intolerably boring and unbelievably irritating for the most part. the only thing that makes me not hate them entirely with every bit of the core of my essence is that they leave me the hell alone and don't crowd me on the bus :D there's a benefit to not fitting in. people don't wanna be near you, so you get extra leg room.
 

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Eh... It's fairly reasonable to judge people based on the choices they make. I'm not going to judge someone for physical appearances beyond their control, but there's so much that's fully within our control. If you spend most of your time alone, avoid others, and seem to enjoy solitude, you'll be treated accordingly. If you're a slut, you're treated like a slut (as the polar opposite).

We can argue until we all lose interest about whether those judgements are always accurate, but in most cases they are. People act in ways according to who they are (unless they're really good actors). Or, at least, people act in ways according to how they'd like to be treated. If you want to be seen as affable, sociable, and "normal, you need to act those ways. People who act like jerks usually are jerks. People who act like freaks usually are freaks. Especially the people who extol the virtues of their "bad" qualities tend to exemplify them. Those who say "yeah, I'm a jackass" with anything except real self-loathing, or says "I'm a freak, so what?" are almost guaranteed to be the epitome of those features
 

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sumanoskae said:
Disaster Button said:
sumanoskae said:
This isn't new. I say the same thing I always do, people are ignorant, insensitive, selfish piles of insecurity and superficial bullshit, they treat other people (especially people who don't conform to their shittyness),ironically , like shit, and I still think they would be better off dead
Even more ironically what you just said could be considered the exact same thing as what you described. But before things get more outta hand I tihnk Ima leave as what I tried (but failed as I suck with words) to convey has been lost under tons of hate replies claiming I'm a shallow, worthless, sack of nothing, etc, when I'm not actually like that.

But then again someone who was like that wouldn't admit it. This really runs a lot deeper than what I was originally trying to convey.

But if you wanna pick this up in private mesages I'll happily oblige, even though you probably just want to insult me more

No I'm not going to private message you about this, I don't know you and I'm not talking about you. I'm not judging anyone by just looking at them, what I'm doing is analyzing the people I know something about, and most of them show evidence of these qualities. I don't see what's wrong with expressing my feelings of dislike for the human race when you put forward a perfect example and ask my opinion of it. You want a more straight forward answer?, okay, I don't think it's alright to whisper assumptions behind a persons back, it's disrespectful, it's immature and it's arrogant. I think I'll end this with a couple of quotes,

"don't criticize what you can't understand" - Bob Dylan

"you're shit, I'm shit, the world is shit, and if your sitting there thinking "yes it's true everyone is shit but me" you are a double bacon shit with large fries mister shit face" - Ben Croshaw aka Yahtzee
Oh that's embarassing. I tohught you were talking about me. Nevermind then, we'll jsut pretend that didn't happen eh?
 

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Have you ever had one of those times when you look at someone and you just know that they're a bit weird .. different?

Here's an example:
In class today a lad walks in and he has his hair shaved short at the sides with a really think (but not spiked) mohawk. With a massive face and he's really tall and a bit fat.

And as soon as he walks in everyone starts talking about him quietly, myself included sadly. People started saying how he was weird and all this and I thought it was a bit weird to judge em on his appearence.
But just like most times people make judgements like that about another school kid, they turned out right.

He is really weird. He sits and hums to himself, dances on the stop and spaztastically, talks about the most obscure things, and laughs for no reason.

The Point:
Now this is all well and good him acting how he wants to act, but how did they know he was gonna turn out like that just based on his looks? And do you think it's wrong?

Edit: Please this isn't a thread on how I judge everyone based on looks and I really didn't mean it to come out like this, but I suck with words.

Sure the thought was inspired by how I judged him but I didn't just leave it at that I did actually talk to him and maintain he's a bit weird. But I don't dislike him for it or treat him any differently.

Hate me for it if you like, I do a bit for judging him myself

Feel free to share any experiences and insight. Or if it's happened to you tell us. It'll make things more interesting.
Without reading past the first post...

People with similar genetics act similarly. People subconciously try to link appearances from past encounters to current ones to create a first impression. So you may not be like "that guy looks like my old grade 3 bully" but you would be like "that guy looks like an asshole".

In other words, we take what we've seen in the past and apply it to the future. You touch fire, you learn fire hurts and everything that looks like fire will be treated the same. Its the same concept but looser, barley tested, and to people.
 

funksobeefy

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if you say you dont judge people on first sight then you are a damn liar. Everyone does and its unfortunate but almost always correct.

you guys are probably just pissed off cause he described you perfectly
 

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Machines Are Us said:
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And as soon as he walks in everyone starts laughing and talking about him quietly, myself included.
I lost respect for you around here.


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But just like most times people make judgements like that about another school kid, they turned out right.
It went downhill even more here.

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He is really weird. He sits and hums to himself, dances on the stop and spaztastically, talks about the most obscure things, and laughs for no reason.
Nobody laughs for without a reason, just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean it does not exist. He was probably thinking about chopping all the judgemental pricks up with an axe for laughing at him.

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Now this is all well and good but how did they know he was gonna turn out like that just based on his looks? And do you think it's wrong?
No it isn't, they didn't, and yes it is.

They are pricks, and would have made those comments even if he acted normal.
I was gonna say something along these lines, but you put it better.

Seriously, your school sounds terrible
 

CosmicCommander

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I am one of those people, and I am glad of it.

In society, I believe there is a huge net of mass conformity, anyone who does not conform, is treated as an un-desirable by anyone who is part of this conformity. Girls must dye their hair blonde, have no brains, and be rude and obnoxious. Men must be strong, tough, rude, and make remarks concerning another person?s mother.

I reject this way of life, instead I embrace something different, I choose what the masses regard as impossible, I embrace:

Individualism
 

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everyone is fine until proven to be a total (insert offensive word here) and then given a second chance and do not change- in that case then I hate them forever

give a reasoned judgement- people can't help how the are- like that guy you prejudised
and you can't help being prejudiced- everyone is different, it doesn't make you a bad person- as long as you keep it to yourself- also just try to give people a chance- if society keeps people outside of everything then they can become solated and start to hate society

sum up
dont prejudise as much
give everyone a chance- if they blow it then keep away from them
 

Stoic raptor

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I think everyone judges people when they first see them, its like involuntary.
You should give them a chance though. Dont ever belive your 1st impressions, even though they are usually right.
Im glad you gave him a second chance Disaster Button