PC Gaming Elitism

[Spawn_Of_Kyuss]

I use both my PC and PS3 to game. Adding an opinion to a thread as dense as this is worthless at this point but...

Quite frankly, with the cost of PC gaming as well as the sheer technological advantage of the platform, I think PC gaming is allowed to boast a little. Don't go mistaking the facts for elitism. A top of the range PC is light years ahead of a 3 year old console.

Add to that the existence of adenoid ridden "simulation" fans where the only option is PC and the outcome is inevitable.

With the group at hand... Well, what can be said? There are cunts everywhere.

TOO MANY FUCKING BUTTONS. Seriously, if "depth" means a control scheme that needs a computer manual to explain, it's too complex for me and I'm sure for much of the general public. Some people may like that. I guess those are the elitists.

If you categorise anyone marginally better at multitasking than you as an elitist that list is going to be infinitely long.

 

[LornMind]

I use both my PC and PS3 to game. Adding an opinion to a thread as dense as this is worthless at this point but...

Quite frankly, with the cost of PC gaming as well as the sheer technological advantage of the platform, I think PC gaming is allowed to boast a little. Don't go mistaking the facts for elitism. A top of the range PC is light years ahead of a 3 year old console.

Add to that the existence of adenoid ridden "simulation" fans where the only option is PC and the outcome is inevitable.

With the group at hand... Well, what can be said? There are cunts everywhere.

TOO MANY FUCKING BUTTONS. Seriously, if "depth" means a control scheme that needs a computer manual to explain, it's too complex for me and I'm sure for much of the general public. Some people may like that. I guess those are the elitists.

If you categorise anyone marginally better at multitasking than you as an elitist that list is going to be infinitely long.

I like to think of myself as quite good at multitasking. Hence my flight simulator example. I can multitask on a PC if I need to or IRL if I need to. My point is, some games are EXTREMELY complex, and I think if a person consider themselves better for being able to play these games then you dip into elitism territory.

Also: I like how you excised my qualifying statement "and some PC gamers too, I guess." You'd be fantastic as an editor for FOX.

 

[JWAN]

Every gaming platform has its elitists. The PC is no different.

For whatever reason, it's just worse with PS3.

fixed.

But at the end of the day this is just another thread about sky cake v.s sky cookies

 

[Zannah]

The main reason for the genuine console hating, is that an awful lot of games tend to come late / horribly portated to the Pc, and people blame it on the console players, as much as they blame them for many "not so good for general gaming" trends (See Halo / power armored spacemarines) that most often originated on consoles.
And the point that some Pc games are just too complex for console-controllers, can hardly be debated.

 

[Spawn_Of_Kyuss]

My point is, some games are EXTREMELY complex, and I think if a person consider themselves better for being able to play these games then you dip into elitism territory.

There We agree. My accusation was made based what seemed like a grouping of all "many keyed game" (Heh, that's a mouthful, is there a word for this?) players.

Also: I like how you excised my qualifying statement "and some PC gamers too, I guess." You'd be fantastic as an editor for FOX.

This made me laugh. Shit, I never finished school - I'm perfect for it. I'm not spending 12 minutes in the cupboard with Bill'O to get into the circle of kin though.

 

[thom_cat_]

How? TOO MANY FUCKING BUTTONS. Seriously, if "depth" means a control scheme that needs a computer manual to explain, it's too complex for me and I'm sure for much of the general public. Some people may like that.

Lol you do know you can make your own binds.
Make your own control scheme.
My hands and fingers never hurt, and I'm only using a slightly modified version of the standard Source layout.

My mouse is EXTREMELY smooth. (G5) And I have had no problems with it at all.

If your pinky is hurting your keyboard or hand position is bad :/

 

[TerranReaper]

Being a PC gamer here, I hate elitism at all sides. You can be a PS3/360/PC elitist, I still hate your guts. Seriously, this type of shit is almost as bad as nationalism. It's also stupid on how people decide to retaliate back (Fire with fire).

 

[LornMind]

My point is, some games are EXTREMELY complex, and I think if a person consider themselves better for being able to play these games then you dip into elitism territory.

There We agree. My accusation was made based what seemed like a grouping of all "many keyed game" (Heh, that's a mouthful, is there a word for this?) players.

Also: I like how you excised my qualifying statement "and some PC gamers too, I guess." You'd be fantastic as an editor for FOX.

This made me laugh. Shit, I never finished school - I'm perfect for it. I'm not spending 12 minutes in the cupboard with Bill'O to get into the circle of kin though.

I'm not to sure what to make of your response, whether it's sarcastic or dicking around because the response is in text. So here's a pancake. We seem to at least agree that not all PC gamers are elitists.

Lol you do know you can make your own binds.
Make your own control scheme.
My hands and fingers never hurt, and I'm only using a slightly modified version of the standard Source layout.

My mouse is EXTREMELY smooth. (G5) And I have had no problems with it at all.

If your pinky is hurting your keyboard or hand position is bad :/

Hurr durr customization, whats that? Nah, I'm just kidding. No, I'm aware of all this. I've played about with sensitivity, smoothing the mouse, etc. It's just that nothing else FEELS right when I rebind the keys. I guess my point is this: I rarely adjust controls on consoles, but on the PC I tend to have to dick around with it to get things just right. There's nothing wrong with customization though and I feel sad that some games on consoles I WOULD like to adjust don't let me apart from picking presets.

 

[TheTim]

lmfao that guy is a major tool

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

I dont give two shits about "Elitists". To me, an Elitist is just a Gaming Douchebag who thinks he (or she) is better then everyone else then goes on a raging fit once they lose.

I also don't give two shits about PC vs Consoles. Each System has its ups and downs, as well as their unique games. I like the Nintendo Wii because I'm a Multiplayer sort of person, and anyone who thinks Nintendo is a kiddies system, I forgot its name but I think its TenSho. Me and my Jujitsu Instructor both agree its probably the only MA15 game that could be classed R+18 IN Australia....and its on the Wii.

 

[randomsix]

*snip

I can think of one way consoles can return fire: how many directions can a PC gamer run in? And how many speeds does he/she have?

What? Every direction?
We have more control over out movement more than you console people XD
Tell me a console controller can let you move like this:
(skip to the middle so it isn't going 2x speed)
Tell me a console controller can let you move with that speed, accuracy and agility.
It can't.
And you can't play mods like that (Counter Strike: Source; Surf)
*snip
ELITISM FTW!

I'm not saying that it's better for complicated things like that that take advantage of a mouse and keyboard. Consoles make it easier to run on straight and shoot at something that is not some multiple of 45 degrees from forward. My comments hold under very precise circumstances. AKA these are the only situations I was talking about.

I can think of one way consoles can return fire: how many directions can a PC gamer run in? And how many speeds does he/she have?

That really only matters in racing games. In say, FPSes, the speed of keypresses and speed and precision of a mouse are better for maneuverability than having analogue sticks, which is why feats of movement like this:
*snipped youtube vids*
Are really only possible on a PC with M&K (doubly so because the whole thing is a mod + custom made maps!)

Same comments as above to this.

I can think of one way consoles can return fire: how many directions can a PC gamer run in? And how many speeds does he/she have?

Just as many as consoles. [http://mobbit.info/media/5/LogitechG18G13_2.jpg]

That is far from basic and you would be hard pressed to say that something like that makes the general PC gaming experience better, as it usually isn't involved.

I can think of one way consoles can return fire: how many directions can a PC gamer run in? And how many speeds does he/she have?

Could you elaborate on this? I'm not too sure what you're getting at here.

A stick allows for many directions of movement with respect to forward. A keyboard allows eight. A keyboard also allows run and walk in most games. A console allows as many increments in speed as the programmers care to implement.

And I am a PC gamer Mr/Ms Fluffles. I just recognize that there are situations in which a console is better.

 

[aarontg]

In the end a system prefrence is nothing but a personal opinion and saying that all other platforms are inferior is laughable. Their is no problem with having a personal prefrence and having elitests just creates oposig elitests nothing more. I own everything accept a PS3 that will come later and I can understand the cool feeling of getting an intensive gme to run fluidly and the pursuing thought of the fact that their is something better beond that that deminishes the appeal o consoles with knowing that the system will run anything you feed into it, but then again the ease of the consoles are their to opose but Iv'e already said enouph.

What I'm saying is that their is no shame in prefrence and that elitesm will only lead to more eliteism.

 

[bismarck55]

PC gaming elitism is a myth. there are as many console elitists as there PC elitists.

 

[WJeff]

I will admit to being a PC elitist. I, however, have a legitimate reason. Although I (in my own opinion, I stress) believe the controls are more precise and versatile, that dedicated servers provide for a better multiplayer experience, and know that the graphics are better (that's just fact), those aren't my reasons.

what I love about PC, what makes it fun, what makes it better, is the community.

The PC gaming community is incredibly involved with the games. On consoles, the line between developer and gamer is very clear. Developer makes the game, gamer buys, end of story. There is no interaction between them. On PC, the community does even more than as the developers. They create maps, mods, entirely new games. It's a living organism, constantly changing and evolving, fantastic new things emerging each day. The community takes games, and does what it wants with them. Modders will take a good game and make it great. As Gabe Newell once said, gamers know what makes a good game better than developers. The developers (the smart ones, at least), include themselves in the community, constantly learning and improving from the community. Without the community, games would be no fun

And that, in a nutshell, is why I hate consoles, and why I think the PC industry's migration to consoles will eventually destroy the entire industry. With consoles, gamers and developers are kept separate. Gamers don't have the freedom to do as they want with their games, and in result the developers can't see what gamers want out of their games. Without the PC, developers and gamers would totally polarize, and truly good games would become incredibly rare to nonexistent. On the PC, you have developers and gamers all in the same boat, working with each other, teaching each other, pioneering the fantastic games we all enjoy today.

So yeah, that is why I think PC gaming is superior.

 

[LazyAza]

Yep elitism has long been a staple of pc gaming. I try to ignore people like that among our community, though I myself am quite proud of my awesome PC I built and upgraded over several years I don't go around claiming its completely superior to the consoles or a console experience in general.

I happily own and play both my hardcore pc games on my hardcore pc and my awesome ps3 games on my awesome ps3. Why some people think you need to have some kind of all encompassing loyalty to a single platform I'll never understand. Even if you cant afford to own more than one theirs no reason to out right hate the others. They are different experiences with unique qualities.

 

[Mcface]

There is no reason for it.
It seems the more someone pays for their console or PC, the more elitist they are.
I own both a gaming PC and a 360, and have began buying more games for 360 lately, since everything in the past few years have just been shit ports.

 

[Mcface]

I will admit to being a PC elitist. I, however, have a legitimate reason. Although I (in my own opinion, I stress) believe the controls are more precise and versatile, that dedicated servers provide for a better multiplayer experience, and know that the graphics are better (that's just fact), those aren't my reasons.

what I love about PC, what makes it fun, what makes it better, is the community.

The PC gaming community is incredibly involved with the games. On consoles, the line between developer and gamer is very clear. Developer makes the game, gamer buys, end of story. There is no interaction between them. On PC, the community does even more than as the developers. They create maps, mods, entirely new games. It's a living organism, constantly changing and evolving, fantastic new things emerging each day. The community takes games, and does what it wants with them. Modders will take a good game and make it great. As Gabe Newell once said, gamers know what makes a good game better than developers. The developers (the smart ones, at least), include themselves in the community, constantly learning and improving from the community. Without the community, games would be no fun

And that, in a nutshell, is why I hate consoles, and why I think the PC industry's migration to consoles will eventually destroy the entire industry. With consoles, gamers and developers are kept separate. Gamers don't have the freedom to do as they want with their games, and in result the developers can't see what gamers want out of their games. Without the PC, developers and gamers would totally polarize, and truly good games would become incredibly rare to nonexistent. On the PC, you have developers and gamers all in the same boat, working with each other, teaching each other, pioneering the fantastic games we all enjoy today.

So yeah, that is why I think PC gaming is superior.

I dont think anyone argues the face it CAN be better. But YOU are no better than someone who plays their games on the 360, or PS3. THAT is elitism, not thinking your machine is better, but thinking that you yourself are better. And if you do, you are retarded.

 

[ratix2]

Every gaming platform has its elitists. The PC is no different.

For whatever reason, it's just worse with PCs.

uh, yeah go to the gamespot forums and then come back and talk to me. console fans are just as bad, unfortunately nobody talks about them.

seriously, why is it that people only talk about the rampant elitism when it comes to the pc when its equally prevalent with the consoles as well?

Listen to a PC Elitist go on about how powerful his computer is and then mention the fact that 90% of PC games don't need that power. He'll flip shit and say the WOW and Diablo 2 are better than any console game.

im not denying that they exist and that they are full of a lot of bullshit, im fully aware of how bad they can be, but to say that they are worse than console fanboys is asinine. ever seen a ps3 elitist start talking about "the fact" that blu-ray allows developers to put higher poly count models and more detailed high resolution textures because of how much storage space it has? or how about the 360 fans that say that the ps3 has no good games for it? have you NEVER seen the rampant idiocy and blind devotion that they have for a system and a company that doesent give a damn about them? hell, go to gamespot right now to the ff13 boards, half the threads on each board is solely about how the other version is better.

they are just as bad as pc elitists, and just as vocal.

 

[coldshadow]

are you really a gamer if you just push aside such gaming experiances by beling close minded?