PC Gaming Elitism

[omega 616]

Games with currency can teach a useful skill, simple maths.

Games with upgrade system in can teach you to wait for better things rather than buying the crap stuff.

Just two off the top of my head.

That's a bit tenuous don't think you think? And if you want to take it further you could say that surf improves your reflexes and manual dexterity, which are useful skills to have.

IF your going to stay away from the user made or mod content anyway then there is no beauty, so you can't really have that as an upside to pc gaming, it is to some but not all if you prefer.

No, the beauty is choice and the ability to say "I don't like what the developer has done with this aspect of the game, so I will change it". With consoles if you don't like the way something is, that's just tough luck.

Take Morrowind, many people hated the cliff racers attacking you every 5 seconds so a mod was made to stop that. If you weren't bothered by them you don't download the mod. But on the xbox version you're stuck with them whether you like it or not. How is having that choice anything but a good thing?

I did have Morrowind on pc and never downloaded anything and I LOVED that game, including the cliff racers.

I have survived with normal copies of games all my life, why start messing around downloading things to change them now?

From what I have seen of user made content it's crap anyway, may not all be like that but what I have seen is crap or "so what".

Normal games improve dexerity so thats not just user made stuff and surly consoles are better for that than moving your whole arm to move the mouse, 2 fingers on one hand and all the fingers on the other.

 

[Firenz]

yes we're elitist


but that's only as we KNOW we're the BEST

 

[Shycte]

I do hope that this isn't the impression that console gamers get when they see PC gamers, I really do.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but this is what I imagine when I hear the words "pc gamer", and I consider myself a relatively neutral person.

Are you serious!? Oh god... you've met some pretty fucked up idiots in that case. Well, understandable actually, people are douchebags

Yes, and most of them happend to be PC gamers.

 

[AlanShore]

I did have Morrowind on pc and never downloaded anything and I LOVED that game, including the cliff racers.

I have survived with normal copies of games all my life, why start messing around downloading things to change them now?

From what I have seen of user made content it's crap anyway, may not all be like that but what I have seen is crap or "so what".

Normal games improve dexerity so thats not just user made stuff and surly consoles are better for that than moving your whole arm to move the mouse, 2 fingers on one hand and all the fingers on the other.

And that's fine FOR YOU. Other people want to mod and stretch out the game to its limits to get the most out of it, on console they wouldn't have that option. Again, just because its not for you doesn't mean it's suddenly not an advantage to the platform. Yes, there is a lot of utter garbage, but there is also gold to be had as well. Don't forget, if it weren't for mods we wouldn't have Counter Strike or Team Fortress.

I didn't say that only user made stuff improved your dexterity or that PC games were better for it, so I've no idea where you got that from. I was simply refuting your point that surf was pointless.

 

[icaritos]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114331846058&ref=nf

God damn it guys, let the console kiddies hate their fun. And hey, maybe consoles are fun. Stop making facebook groups and go play on your PCs. (PC gamer at heart here, own no consoles. At least, not anymore)

We're only elitist because we're better. It's not our fault.

Now now, we at least have to pretend. Or at least play down our superiority.

You know, so we don't have to kill all the console gamers with mice wielded like bolos. Because we would.

We're like the Gooks in 'Nam, man, they don't stand a chance, they don't have the tools man, we have camouflage. We're never seeeeen, maaaan. Like this text here, man. Never seen.

While the sarcasm is painfully obvious, this is generally the attitude a PC gamer has. Either its a clear superiority complex or a well disguised one.

Seriously people grow up, every gaming rig has its pluses and minuses and not everyone has the money to afford a high end PC (which will cost you more than any console, no matter the price of games, unless you buy like over 70 games over the life of a single PC...and you wont)

As a compulsive buyer that has every console and a gaming PC (and a huge debt) i can confidently say: Shut up and play your goddamn games.

 

[FactualSquirrel]

Aaah that sucks. Well thankfully, douchebags aren't limited to a single group and the majority can't be found in one place. They're scattered across the whole globe! Like a plague! I'm pretty sure if you hang out with me and my mates for a couple of days you'd change your mind about us PC lads We're not all the same. Far from it

Oh yes, obviously not all pc gamers are douchebags (and probably not even the majority), but the mst douchbaggy people are also the most outspoken, so that's all I really here.

And you sound like an awesome guy, and I know plenty of people who are pc gamers, it#s just that my stereotype is still the "1337" guy.

 

[richasr]

I used to be (when I was still in Primary School - that's 10 years old for you non-Brits) quite the PC Elitist, always stating the 'fact' that PC's were miles better, and maybe at the time they had most of the advantages over console games, but then I got a Playstation and later a PS2, and then an XBOX and then a 360, and finally a PS3. As time went on, for gaming at least, the sheer cost of computers and the advancement of console technology/lowering of prices made it much easier to go for console games.

So you basically bought every single console out there (most likely at or close to release) and had to buy the new ones too after a generation is "done with" and generally pay about 20% more for every single game but state that upgrading a PC instead of that is more costly? xD

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No. All Playstation consoles were bought for me (luckily), and usually a while after release too, I also bought my xbox and 360 at least a year after release. I like to think that the potential problems PCs have when it comes to gaming and other software packages make a console the better buy, as it's power on, disc in and play.

I don't have a very good history when it comes to PC hardware.

 

[FactualSquirrel]

Aaah that sucks. Well thankfully, douchebags aren't limited to a single group and the majority can't be found in one place. They're scattered across the whole globe! Like a plague! I'm pretty sure if you hang out with me and my mates for a couple of days you'd change your mind about us PC lads We're not all the same. Far from it

Oh yes, obviously not all pc gamers are douchebags (and probably not even the majority), but the mst douchbaggy people are also the most outspoken, so that's all I really here.

And you sound like an awesome guy, and I know plenty of people who are pc gamers, it#s just that my stereotype is still the "1337" guy.

Yeah that's what I hate most. It only takes a minority to drag down everyone... And it's exactly as you say, it's the idiots who are always loudest. Which sucks. They, more often then not, have absolutely nothing to say.

Hahaha yeah cheers, the same Yeah my impression of the Xbox community is basically 10 year olds who scream with their whiny voices and the frat boys who play Gears of War and scream with their drunk voices Predjudice sucks There are probably some awesome people there but to find them, eh. But yeah we're all gamers, share the love guys

Oh and what lives in the basement?! I still have no idea!

Heh, I now, but I have alot of friends on there, and I've even met some awesome people online, it just took a long time, so they all have their good and bad people.

Well, alot of things live in the basement, but here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.179162-Poll-Insanum-Presents-4th-gonzo-The-Basement] is a thread with the definites and some speculation.

The truth is out there (not sure where that's from, but I'm sure it's relevant).

 

[Sebenko]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114331846058&ref=nf

God damn it guys, let the console kiddies hate their fun. And hey, maybe consoles are fun. Stop making facebook groups and go play on your PCs. (PC gamer at heart here, own no consoles. At least, not anymore)

We're only elitist because we're better. It's not our fault.

Now now, we at least have to pretend. Or at least play down our superiority.

You know, so we don't have to kill all the console gamers with mice wielded like bolos. Because we would.

We're like the Gooks in 'Nam, man, they don't stand a chance, they don't have the tools man, we have camouflage. We're never seeeeen, maaaan. Like this text here, man. Never seen.

While the sarcasm is painfully obvious, this is generally the attitude a PC gamer has. Either its a clear superiority complex or a well disguised one.

Seriously people grow up, every gaming rig has its pluses and minuses and not everyone has the money to afford a high end PC (which will cost you more than any console, no matter the price of games, unless you buy like over 70 games over the life of a single PC...and you wont)

As a compulsive buyer that has every console and a gaming PC (and a huge debt) i can confidently say: Shut up and play your goddamn games.

Man, you're trying to hold us down, like the MAN. And the MAN gets us down.

I count 81 games in my collection, boxed alone, which, removing the few I had before I got this PC, about 70. Plus, a lot of them were cheap with a capital C. Doom 3, £3. STALKER: CS, £5. Also, I'm going to make a stretch and assume that you have a PC, one that you are using to post here. That, plus whatever console you have, plus your HDTV (since console gamers always assume that we need the most expensive PC parts, I'll assume the same about TVs).
I haven't upgraded since early 2008, and I could have used the same parts for the initial build that I upgraded to.

Honestly, I can't even have a good laugh on a forum without someone shouting "URRR, YOU MUST BE SERIOUS, PC IS SERIOUS BUSINESS".

I mean christ, that post wasn't anything to do with this PC vs. Console argument you've dragged me into. I just wanted an excuse to reply to another post with white text.
Go away man, you're bustin` up my GROOVE, maaaaan!

Don't make me get serious, man, last time I got serious I moved the goddamn 38th parallel.

 

[Korten12]

Oh and what lives in the basement?! I still have no idea!

me... I live in the basement... fear me... I do seriosuly have all my gaming stuff in my basement but thats only becuase its the free space in my house and its finished off and is quite nice.

I am part PC gamer/PS3 gamer.

GO HYBRIDS!

 

[Korten12]

Oh and what lives in the basement?! I still have no idea!

me... I live in the basement... fear me... I do seriosuly have all my gaming stuff in my basement but thats only becuase its the free space in my house and its finished off and is quite nice.

I am part PC gamer/PS3 gamer.

GO HYBRIDS!

But the Escapist basement! That's the one I'm curious about. And yeah Hybrids ftw, the best from both worlds

ohhhh.... THAT basement... Its a minitour and it will kill ya if you go down there and the door will be locked behind you.

 

[Delusibeta]

Frankly, you can replace a few words in that group description and you've got a "PCs suck!" or a "360s suck!" group.

Although TrackMania (one of the few series of PC games which really needs a PC) is getting/has got a Wii and DS version...

 

[Awexsome]

I only see a few scattered cases of really bad PC elitism. About as much as I'd see console fanboyism anywhere else. I think the escapist has a slightly larger amount of said elitists but it's better off than most other sites.

I'm kinda on the sidelines for the whole PC/Console gaming thing. I've never gamed on a PC until I recently got a kinda good labtop for college so now I've been playing TF2 recently (although my frame rate lags up in anything much more than 10 v 10) but I still prefer Halo on the 360. But I've grown up on consoles ever since the Sega Genesis going into all Nintendo consoles up to the Gamecube and back then I was a kid who played Zelda, Mario and stuff like that and took it as a small hobby until I got more into it as I got older and didn't start to really branch out until the PS2/GC/Xbox generation of consoles.

 

[DragonChi]

I don't know what constitutes someone as being a PC Elitist...I just call myself a PC enthusiast. I am a PC gamer at heart, however, i play consoles as well, they are equally enjoyable and there are a lot of games that arent available to PC..like Zelda. I have never considered myself "holy-er than thou". that persona is ridiculous. Ultimately, I'm a gamer, like everyone else here.