Political Rant #1 Legalizing marijuana

[vrmlguy]

people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why you should only smoke what you grow yourself. http://www.howtogrowmarijuana.com/

 

[Inco]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

I love the amount of evidence you provide. Personally I'd rather have a bunch of "black-eyed dopes" (whatever those are) than a bunch of angry drunks.

Read through the thread a little, and you'll see my evidence, coupled with some great comments by various other people.

As for the whole angry drunk thing, I swear sometimes that most people are educated by their TV rather than the real world. Of course there are angry drunks around, but hardly any when it comes down to a ratio of people that drink. And as for stoners, every pot smoker that I've met in the real world just happen to be the exact thing that I described in the post that you quoted: black-eyed dopes.

Ha, i went to a party the night before i went to escapism, which got gatecrashed by some random guys, who smoked weed (everyone saw it) and then followed through to ruin the party by throwing a few deodorant cans into the bonfire we had. The Fire brigade came and you know what they (the stoners) did? they left and beat up some guys down the street.
That was enough to keep my stance of weed where it is and fortify it.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

I love the amount of evidence you provide. Personally I'd rather have a bunch of "black-eyed dopes" (whatever those are) than a bunch of angry drunks.

Read through the thread a little, and you'll see my evidence, coupled with some great comments by various other people.

As for the whole angry drunk thing, I swear sometimes that most people are educated by their TV rather than the real world. Of course there are angry drunks around, but hardly any when it comes down to a ratio of people that drink. And as for stoners, every pot smoker that I've met in the real world just happen to be the exact thing that I described in the post that you quoted: black-eyed dopes.

Ha, i went to a party the night before i went to escapism, which got gatecrashed by some random guys, who smoked weed (everyone saw it) and then followed through to ruin the party by throwing a few deodorant cans into the bonfire we had. The Fire brigade came and you know what they (the stoners) did? they left and beat up some guys down the street.
That was enough to keep my stance of weed where it is and fortify it.

Yes because Weed makes you go Crazy. No, weed has absolutely nothing to do with that. Weed IS NOT like every other drug you encounter. You don't go batshit crazy when you smoke it, you simply become a bit...dumb. Like if something falls on the floor in another room, it takes you about 5 seconds to realize it. All it basically does is SLOW DOWN THE SENSES. That's it. NOTHING MORE. Those guys who beat up a dude etc...they were doing that because they wanted to, not because weed. Weed has nothing to do with that.


And yeah, it should be legalized. It would be good for every single side. Everything that has the "No" staple on it people will want it. It's like saying to a Kid "It's bad to stay up 'till 12", the kid will stay up 'till 12 JUST TO TRY IT. Legalize it, and less people will use it. Not only that, but if you do legalize drugs like "weed" all those people selling it, making money of it aka drug dealers would simply disappear. Why? Because people wouldn't need them. So, it's Good for both sides.

Less people will use it, those who do use it will buy it legally this time, drug dealers would mostly "disappear".(This mostly depends on what kind of drugs their selling etc.)

 

[Inco]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

I love the amount of evidence you provide. Personally I'd rather have a bunch of "black-eyed dopes" (whatever those are) than a bunch of angry drunks.

Read through the thread a little, and you'll see my evidence, coupled with some great comments by various other people.

As for the whole angry drunk thing, I swear sometimes that most people are educated by their TV rather than the real world. Of course there are angry drunks around, but hardly any when it comes down to a ratio of people that drink. And as for stoners, every pot smoker that I've met in the real world just happen to be the exact thing that I described in the post that you quoted: black-eyed dopes.

Ha, i went to a party the night before i went to escapism, which got gatecrashed by some random guys, who smoked weed (everyone saw it) and then followed through to ruin the party by throwing a few deodorant cans into the bonfire we had. The Fire brigade came and you know what they (the stoners) did? they left and beat up some guys down the street.
That was enough to keep my stance of weed where it is and fortify it.

Yes because Weed makes you go Crazy. No, weed has absolutely nothing to do with that. Weed IS NOT like every other drug you encounter. You don't go batshit crazy when you smoke it, you simply become a bit...dumb. Like if something falls on the floor in another room, it takes you about 5 seconds to realize it. All it basically does is SLOW DOWN THE SENSES. That's it. NOTHING MORE. Those guys who beat up a dude etc...they were doing that because they wanted to, not because weed. Weed has nothing to do with that.


And yeah, it should be legalized. It would be good for every single side. Everything that has the "No" staple on it people will want it. It's like saying to a Kid "It's bad to stay up 'till 12", the kid will stay up 'till 12 JUST TO TRY IT. Legalize it, and less people will use it. Not only that, but if you do legalize drugs like "weed" all those people selling it, making money of it aka drug dealers would simply disappear. Why? Because people wouldn't need them. So, it's Good for both sides.

Less people will use it, those who do use it will buy it legally this time, drug dealers would mostly "disappear".(This mostly depends on what kind of drugs their selling etc.)

You do realize that it is not that black and white? Things will not occur in a neat fashion that you have explained, kids will not go 'oh its legal now, so it aint cool to use'. drug dealers will not just vanish, they will move on to another product or supply a variant of the drug that has a more superficial effect that is more hazardous than the original.

 

[Birdehh]

May have been posted, but one reason it hasn't been legalised yet is because the government can't tax it

 

[Komus]

Really? Really?

No, really?

1. You don't get a say in society until you get a haircut and get a real job.
2. READ "Cannabis: A History" by Martin Booth.
3. READ "The Dutch Experience" by Nol van Schaik.
4. Form a structured arguement.
5. Achknowledge the redundancy, naivety and general ignorance which you have displayed.
6. Appologize to everyone.

(For the record, I was a dealer for several years and I am still an occasional user. Amongst a plethora of valid arguements, consider that the legalisation of any drug leads to habitual use. Despite what anyone says, habitual cannabis use ("addictive" or otherwise) is not a positive life style.)

FIN.

 

[bue519]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

I love the amount of evidence you provide. Personally I'd rather have a bunch of "black-eyed dopes" (whatever those are) than a bunch of angry drunks.

Read through the thread a little, and you'll see my evidence, coupled with some great comments by various other people.

As for the whole angry drunk thing, I swear sometimes that most people are educated by their TV rather than the real world. Of course there are angry drunks around, but hardly any when it comes down to a ratio of people that drink. And as for stoners, every pot smoker that I've met in the real world just happen to be the exact thing that I described in the post that you quoted: black-eyed dopes.

Well, you still give no evidence for black eyed dopes. (or even a definition) And were you born under a rock? Because there are angry drunks everywhere. I walk around my campus on a friday night constantly being challenged to fight by people who have taken too many shots of courage. So, I would have to say either go outside and see the real world, or just stop lying to yourself.

Where do you live? 'cause I certainly want to avoid it if there are as many angry drunks as you say.

As for black-eyed dopes, that's definition enough. The sort of people that appear randomly out of bushes to stare at a hedge for half an hour like it's the messiah. And yes, I see it quite a bit. Once a week actually, and at the exact same hedge.

Maybe it's a magic hedge?

Granted I do live near a college campus. But seriously if you have ever seen your parents drunk then you probably know how hard drunks can be to deal with. And if you havn't I pity how sheltered you are.

 

[bue519]

No I'm telling you that I don't care about your opinion becuase I don't like you. I'm glad you're here or this would be a boring thread but you annoy me So i'm not going to take your advice on wether or not to make another rant.

Fair enough, but really the fact that you don't like me merely because of an opinion on a random subject (I get into arguments with Indigo_Dingo quite a bit, but we get along fine otherwise) sort of confuses me.

As for not taking my advice, I'm not forcing you to do (or not do) anything.

Pardon my vanity, but what about me annoys you?

Probably your high handed attitude.

 

[bue519]

HA! No you bloody well haven't.
You've chosen to ignore that pot has the same risks as tobaco and more, and that alchol can be of benefit.
NOT TO MENTION that pot can also cause someone to be constantly violent which I have witnessed.
And your idea of release all pot smokers is naive at best, as you think they are all good guys just wanting to get high. Somehow I doubt that.

You do realize that your friend was probably violent due to the fact that he was coke head and not as you say "addicted to pot." Also please explain how pot is worse for you than cigarettes and would you kindly explain how alcohol be of benefit. Your arguments seem misguided and uninformed. Trust me I see the destruction of alcoholism, and the toll that it takes on a body over pot screwing people up.

No, he was on pot, not coke, don't try to correct me on something like that - I'm not retarded. Pot causes paranoia, which he suffered from, and when he wasn't on pot he was very edgy & violent.
Pot is worse than cigarettes due to the physiological effects it can cause such as loss of memory, paranoia and schizophrenia. With smoking being such a taboo, how can anyone justify making something worse than it legal? Sheer idiocy.
And do a basic google search before claiming BS: http://www.keepthedoctoraway.co.uk/Articles/Drinking:TheHealthBenefits_391.html That was the first hit.

So he was violent when he was on pot and when he wasn't too? He just sounds like a violent person. And you sound like your either lying or too dumb to remember what you wrote. So which is it, a lies or stupidity.

 

[APPCRASH]

Legalizing marijuana doesn't make it less popular because it is now part of "the norm." Also quality control wont happen either. Alcohol is legal, but if the further south you head in America you start to run into ol' fashion Moonshine, the stuff that makes you go blind.

So, because alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana should be too? Well, that seems logical.(insert sarcasm) Maybe they should allow masturbation in public to be legal too. Should I list off positive aspects of jerkin' your gerkin' and pretend to make a valid argument over it because it had less hazards than alcohol?

Probably not. I'll hold my peace, for now at least.

 

[electric_warrior]

do what the dutch have done, sell it in cafes only and tolerate people smoking it within reason.
man i wanna be dutch

 

[Nmil-ek]

Sucks to live where it isnt legalised I guess, try and catch up this century rest of the world kay?

 

[Panzer_God]

Sucks to live where it isnt legalised I guess, try and catch up this century rest of the world kay?

I've been trying to get our governement caught up with the rest of the world. Beleive me

 

[USSR]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

no one ever died because of marijuana

Really?

I thought inhaling smoke was completely sanitary -.-