Poll: Do you trust your government?

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ZTBar

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Golly, that's a tough one. As a Canadian, I'm not really sure what my government is up to since the PM is somewhat opaque. However, that's pretty much the reason I voted for the guy in the first place. He didn't go off on a tagent spouting some hardcore radical shit that seemed particularly (read: economically) damaging to my country. So, do I trust the guy absolutely? Nope, not for a second. You can't trust any politician, really. But do I trust the guy in a relative sense, relative to his competition from the last election. Yes, wholeheartedly!

Had he better competition, I would have voted against Steven Harper. Sadly, Harper was the most resonable cadidate during that election.
 

CoziestPigeon

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Fanboy post=18.75011.853597 said:
I don't trust the canadian government (Mostly Harper), but that doesn't matter cause they don't do anything.
Truth! Can't trust them, even though there is nothing to trust. They just kinda follow what America tells them.
 

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varulfic post=18.75011.853639 said:
Ever since the FRA law [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA_law] was passed, my respect and trust for the government has been nil. Can't see why I should trust them when they have violated my civil rights like that, and for no reason at all. They obviously don't trust me, why should I trust them?
Despite that law I still trust them... just not as much as I used to...
 

axia777

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54r93 post=18.75011.853757 said:
The_Logician19 post=18.75011.853736 said:
54r93 post=18.75011.853727 said:
I trust my current government yes. If Obama wins, I'll be scared out of my mind, and won't trust it as far as i could throw it.
...why?
Because he's going to ruin this country with his socialist policies, he wants to implement gun control and take away our second amendment right. He wants to institute government learning seminars or some stupid shit that will brainwash this country. He is being supported by the leaders of our enemies, and he is an indecisive man...I can't trust that he would do anything good for this country at all.
It sounds like you are drinking deeply from the McCain/Karl Rove fountain of lies and puke. They have poisoned your mind with complete and utter BULLSHIT. It all most sounds like you could be a mouth piece for Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. But then what do you care? You believe all those lies. And if you really do watch CNN, then you know for a fact that all that puke you just spouted is just that, puke. I watch CNN every damn day and they have refuted ever single damn thing you have said.
 

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axia777 post=18.75011.853866 said:
54r93 post=18.75011.853757 said:
The_Logician19 post=18.75011.853736 said:
54r93 post=18.75011.853727 said:
I trust my current government yes. If Obama wins, I'll be scared out of my mind, and won't trust it as far as i could throw it.
...why?
Because he's going to ruin this country with his socialist policies, he wants to implement gun control and take away our second amendment right. He wants to institute government learning seminars or some stupid shit that will brainwash this country. He is being supported by the leaders of our enemies, and he is an indecisive man...I can't trust that he would do anything good for this country at all.
It sounds like you are drinking deeply from the McCain/Karl Rove fountain of lies and puke. They have poisoned your mind with complete and utter BULLSHIT. It all most sounds like you could be a mouth piece for Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. But then what do you care? You believe all those lies. And if you really do watch CNN, then you know for a fact that all that puke you just spouted is just that, puke. I watch CNN every damn day and they have refuted ever single damn thing you have said.
While I am curious as to why he trusts the current government, do you really need to resort to name-calling? Enhance your calm, axia777.
 

El Chicken

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axia777 post=18.75011.853632 said:
The Land Of Cameras on every street corner.
I barely notice, Living in the country has its benefits. Plus i dont go out much either and especially not into big cities. I think we might actually have a bigger problem with thugs and the like. Im not saying the cameras arent a problem though, i mean its like throwing money down the drain for no reason.

Now, do i trust my goverment? The answer: Absolutely not. But why? Well like you said, too many cameras and the like, Britain is falling apart brick by brick. I also think they are too paranoid about piracy, they should be a bit more laid back because pirates will find a way no matter what. If you put securom onto a game, people will refuse to buy it while pirates can still bypass it.

And as if the government wasnt making enough money to begin with, now they can line their pockets even further with ridiculous new taxes. Im usually not one to complain about politics but i think its gone too far.
 

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Many people(in this context, Americans) are eager to speak of the heinous abuses of power perpetrated by the current government. Warrentless wiretapping, Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib. Yet I have yet to meet a single American citizen who can tell me of a specific instance of their civil rights being violated. Citizens don't disappear from their homes for bad mouthing government policies, people aren't being randomly wiretapped(the process is prohibitively expensive and manpower consuming), government funded university staff aren't being replaced with professors and deans who toe the current party line.

The actions the American government have taken since September 11th have been to ensure the safety and security of the American people while infringing upon their civil rights as little as possible. The detainees at Guantanamo Bay fall under enemy combatant status not because the government wishes to hold them forever just because, rather they are there because of their own choices. The majority of the insurgent fighters are Iranian or Syrian in nationality, and to put them on trial would be to invite open hostilities with either of those two governments, something that should be avoided until the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan have been quelled.

With the sole exception of C-Span, all of the popular media outlets in the United States are either mildly slanted or completely biased in one way or another. Karl Rove is an analyst for Fox News, James Carlville is an analyst for CNN. The purpose of a major news outlet is not to deliver the news in an unbiased way, but to provoke as much sensationalism as possible to raise profits. Networks and newspapers are businesses, they are all run by faceless corporate boardrooms.

As for myself, I trust my government to do its best to deal with the problems presented to it. I understand the necessity of state secrets, just as I am grateful for the Freedom of Information Act. Deriding the government as either evil or praising it as saintly places you in a polarized ideology camp. Take the government as what it is, a collection of fallible people, and try to better it.
 
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54r93 post=18.75011.853757 said:
He wants to institute government learning seminars or some stupid shit that'll brainwash this country.
Conservatism. Because America isn't stupid enough.

Pernese post=18.75011.853899 said:
Warrentless wiretapping
a single American citizen who can tell me of a specific instance of their civil rights being violated.
Case in point.
 

axia777

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Pernese post=18.75011.853899 said:
Many people(in this context, Americans) are eager to speak of the heinous abuses of power perpetrated by the current government. Warrentless wiretapping, Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib. Yet I have yet to meet a single American citizen who can tell me of a specific instance of their civil rights being violated. Citizens don't disappear from their homes for bad mouthing government policies, people aren't being randomly wiretapped(the process is prohibitively expensive and manpower consuming), government funded university staff aren't being replaced with professors and deans who toe the current party line.

The actions the American government have taken since September 11th have been to ensure the safety and security of the American people while infringing upon their civil rights as little as possible. The detainees at Guantanamo Bay fall under enemy combatant status not because the government wishes to hold them forever just because, rather they are there because of their own choices. The majority of the insurgent fighters are Iranian or Syrian in nationality, and to put them on trial would be to invite open hostilities with either of those two governments, something that should be avoided until the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan have been quelled.

With the sole exception of C-Span, all of the popular media outlets in the United States are either mildly slanted or completely biased in one way or another. Karl Rove is an analyst for Fox News, James Carlville is an analyst for CNN. The purpose of a major news outlet is not to deliver the news in an unbiased way, but to provoke as much sensationalism as possible to raise profits. Networks and newspapers are businesses, they are all run by faceless corporate boardrooms.

As for myself, I trust my government to do its best to deal with the problems presented to it. I understand the necessity of state secrets, just as I am grateful for the Freedom of Information Act. Deriding the government as either evil or praising it as saintly places you in a polarized ideology camp. Take the government as what it is, a collection of fallible people, and try to better it.
You keep drinking that poisoned Right Wing Kool-Aid man. Keep on gulping down. They LOVE people like you. You voted for people like Bush and were proud you did. The insanity just never ends, does it?
 

Calobi

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"A government is a body of people; usually, notably ungoverned."
~Shepard Book, quoting Malcolm Reynold

What's not trust in that situation? Took me a while to remember that one.
 

axia777

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Calobi post=18.75011.854002 said:
"A government is a body of people; usually, notably ungoverned."
~Shepard Book, quoting Malcolm Reynold

What's not trust in that situation? Took me a while to remember that one.
Nice quote, but you really can't be serious right? Right? What's not to trust? It is a joke right?
 

Iron Mal

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There is no reason for me to either trust or distrust my government (that being Parliment in the UK).
I do not personally ask them for anything and I am one person who's needs, opinions and ideas probably differ from the lowest common denominator, so I have no reason to hang on their every word.
On the other hand, I personally haven't been robbed or cheated by the government and I haven't been the target of a politically motivated assassination attempt so I have no reason to treat all officials with suspicion.

In other words, it's none of my business so I don't really care.
 
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The actions the American government have taken since September 11th have been to ensure the safety and security of the American people while infringing upon their civil rights as little as possible.
Tell me...coz I'm eager to know...what exactly has been done about Ground Zero? Because last I heard it has actually been made worse since the tragedy. I mean, apart from starving people of their livelihood, thinking about building a subway under the tower, the 20 foot tall glass monument, the underground mausoleum....

I mean, I expect that the real people involved would kinda like to just remember the fallen, rather than being treated to the usual empty promises.
 
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El Chicken post=18.75011.853889 said:
axia777 post=18.75011.853632 said:
The Land Of Cameras on every street corner.
I barely notice, Living in the country has its benefits. Plus i dont go out much either and especially not into big cities. I think we might actually have a bigger problem with thugs and the like. Im not saying the cameras arent a problem though, i mean its like throwing money down the drain for no reason.

Now, do i trust my goverment? The answer: Absolutely not. But why? Well like you said, too many cameras and the like, Britain is falling apart brick by brick. I also think they are too paranoid about piracy, they should be a bit more laid back because pirates will find a way no matter what. If you put securom onto a game, people will refuse to buy it while pirates can still bypass it.

And as if the government wasnt making enough money to begin with, now they can line their pockets even further with ridiculous new taxes. Im usually not one to complain about politics but i think its gone too far.
There's also the fact that our Government has more information on it's citizens than any other First World Power, and still leaves said information on the train.

Wake up call : You can't legislate common sense. Doing so, paradoxically, removes it as well as basic freedom. See Iceland.
 

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axia777 post=18.75011.853632 said:
Stevato post=18.75011.853610 said:
My mistrust towards the British Government is because of the fact it seems they make most of their decisions by shouting at eachother in the House of Commons... sometimes if we're very lucky there may be a fist fight :S

Sounds fun, but when u watch you'll think "wow, so our county is ran like this?"
I have actually seen videos of fist fights in government chambers in several countries in Asia on the TV show Maximum Exposure. It was funny to see elected officials kicking each others asses.

The_root_of_all_evil post=18.75011.853620 said:
The once great Britain.
The Land Of Cameras on every street corner.
Indeed, the amount of times we must be recorded each day must be staggering
 

axia777

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The_root_of_all_evil post=18.75011.854127 said:
Wake up call : You can't legislate common sense. Doing so, paradoxically, removes it as well as basic freedom. See Iceland.
What is wrong with Iceland? Please explain you reasoning.

Stevato post=18.75011.854131 said:
axia777 post=18.75011.853632 said:
The Land Of Cameras on every street corner.
Indeed, the amount of times we must be recorded each day must be staggering
Imagine the amount of HD space it takes to record all that footage. It really blows my mind.
 

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Pernese post=18.75011.853899 said:
Many people(in this context, Americans) are eager to speak of the heinous abuses of power perpetrated by the current government. Warrentless wiretapping, Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib. Yet I have yet to meet a single American citizen who can tell me of a specific instance of their civil rights being violated. Citizens don't disappear from their homes for bad mouthing government policies, people aren't being randomly wiretapped(the process is prohibitively expensive and manpower consuming), government funded university staff aren't being replaced with professors and deans who toe the current party line.

The actions the American government have taken since September 11th have been to ensure the safety and security of the American people while infringing upon their civil rights as little as possible. The detainees at Guantanamo Bay fall under enemy combatant status not because the government wishes to hold them forever just because, rather they are there because of their own choices. The majority of the insurgent fighters are Iranian or Syrian in nationality, and to put them on trial would be to invite open hostilities with either of those two governments, something that should be avoided until the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan have been quelled.

With the sole exception of C-Span, all of the popular media outlets in the United States are either mildly slanted or completely biased in one way or another. Karl Rove is an analyst for Fox News, James Carlville is an analyst for CNN. The purpose of a major news outlet is not to deliver the news in an unbiased way, but to provoke as much sensationalism as possible to raise profits. Networks and newspapers are businesses, they are all run by faceless corporate boardrooms.

As for myself, I trust my government to do its best to deal with the problems presented to it. I understand the necessity of state secrets, just as I am grateful for the Freedom of Information Act. Deriding the government as either evil or praising it as saintly places you in a polarized ideology camp. Take the government as what it is, a collection of fallible people, and try to better it.
I aint trusting your opinion mate you are just a mouthpiece for the Umbrella Corporation, who are one of the Rebublican parties biggest contributers last i checked