Poll: Do you trust your government?
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Everybody. The opposition AND the government itself, agree that the current government is terrible. But they also agree that this is the only viable possibility for now.
Everybody. The opposition AND the government itself, agree that the current government is terrible. But they also agree that this is the only viable possibility for now.
Hahaha man, that was a good one. Those guys that wrote out The Constitution, yeah, that Bill of Rights thingy? They wanted equal rights for everyone? Especially all of their slaves. Oh wait who was that guy that said Democracy was the worst of all evils if it was actually left up to the people like it was supposed to? I think it was someone by the name of Jefferson...oh it was! Yeah, I am sure that those wealthy landowners set out to make sure that we all had our "rights". Please, read into things, don't assume that George Washington was some sort of demi-god man.The_Logician19 post=18.75011.853601 said:
i dont trust my government's legal system. any system where you can be incarcerated for selling heroine to 4yr olds outside a daycare, serve 6 months in jail, sue the state for not providing you with more premium channels or terrycloth robes while in your cell, and come out a multi-millionaire has serious problems and i cant put any trust in that shit.
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Having to go through 2 lame-duck P.M's through 3 Parliaments has done little to bolster my faith in the system...that fact that the latest election advertisements consisted mainly of "we'll fix shit!" without really listing a platform and ad hominem attacks on other candidates in particular. However things don't really seem all that bad from this posters comp seat.
To those denouncing Socialism, has generosity and selflessness gone out of fashion?
Having to go through 2 lame-duck P.M's through 3 Parliaments has done little to bolster my faith in the system...that fact that the latest election advertisements consisted mainly of "we'll fix shit!" without really listing a platform and ad hominem attacks on other candidates in particular. However things don't really seem all that bad from this posters comp seat.
To those denouncing Socialism, has generosity and selflessness gone out of fashion?
Governments can go overboard, politicians can have agendas, corruption and plainly misunderstanding/lack of knowledge on a subject can lead to terrible legislature. So no, I do not fully trust my government and neither should you really.
Always stay informed and critizize when needed.
Always stay informed and critizize when needed.
Lowering taxes might help them pay it off.axia777 post=18.75011.854287 said:
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Besides, if there isn't a charity that helps people with health care, it's always possible to make one.
While I like your last point, a lot, I think that degree of trust in this or any government is dangerous. And the precedent set by the Patriot Act is extremely far-reaching. It is never good enough to rationalize the use of exceptional powers because those who are entrusted with them promise not to abuse them. It is synonymous with the saying, "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear." But can you guarantee that the Patriot Act won't be used against innocents? Of course, you cannot. History shows that exceptional powers, once granted, can and will be abused, or used against their original intent or purpose. It's only a matter of time. So what's to be done? Laws are enacted which restrict government actions, and individuals are guaranteed rights to protect them and prevent government abuse. Those are the guarantees. Individual freedoms and restrictions on government power are the guarantees that, in normal times, prevent the abuse of power.Pernese post=18.75011.853899 said:
Essentially, the Patriot Act is the dismantling of those very guarantees. All it is, is the suspension of that which is intended to prevent abuses of power. The precedent is too extreme, and the potential for corruption too dangerous. There is a reason we had those freedoms in the first place, and I would not have them suspended. Liberty is worthless if it is too lightly surrendered. This is why Benjamin Franklin said:
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
You can't trust your government; you vote against the government you hate, not for the one you like.
Seriously, what's there to trust?
Seriously, what's there to trust?
I don't assume he was a demi-god, and I take your implication that I didn't know all of the above as a personal insult.Mr.Pandah post=18.75011.854211 said:
The men who wrote the constitution intended to make it so that the land would not be ruled by a ruthless king. They made it so that no single person could not be taken down from his place of power. They made it so that the rights of one man cannot infringe upon the rights of another.
Perhaps instead of making assumptions about the people who wrote the document, you should look at the document itself and ask youself why the people who made it would make it as they did. Pick up any high school history book and read it. Those laws were meant to be considered just short of sacred.
I'm not worried about our country. We aren't screwed unless they defile The Constitution with the will of the masses (laws concerning flag-burning or abortion, for example). We aren't near that point yet. Nowhere near.
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