Poll: Hate Obama? Well Carter says you're racist...

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johnman

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I just rewatched that... WTF? "Is obama a christian?" "NOOO hes MUSlim!"

When the interveiwer explains what Czars actaully are that man responds "You know this how?" as if its some well kept fact. Its obvious that he didnt have a clue what he was talking about.
Also that kids who claims "hes destoryed most of the country already", what? Did he fly over bombing America or somthing?

And some one needs to remind those christians who swear by the constituion that it was written by a group of Atheists.
 

LeonLethality

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gof22 said:
Quick everyone into the flame bunker *Runs inside*

I like Obama but even I can see that some democrats are using the race thing to much.
how long will the bunker hold!

also I agree that race is definetly something in this because I can't rule out its not but I think its more that many of these people iddnt vote for obama or misinformedly(is this a word) voted for him and are pissed off because he won
 

Chima1952

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Can you provide something that proves he's Muslim? Or is it just something you heard from Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh? Obama is Christian, and probably a better Christian than you are that's if you are a Christian.
 

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It's actually racist and generalistic to assume that people dislike his policies because he is black.

I love his policies. YAY I'm not racist
 

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1.I don't feel bad for Obama. He voted for the Patriot act, after all.
2.Yes they are using the race card. It's also the reason he got the presidency. Who was going to listen to the old white man?
 

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I knew that someone was going to play the fucking race card. Obama's race shouldn't protect him from any criticism. Once you use your race as a shield, you have become a racist.
 

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I would really like to stop hearing, "Wait! If you don't agree with Obama THAN YOU ARE RACIST!" So it is a matter that you are either a blind follower or a member of the K.K.K. I don't see why I can filter through the bullshit he is speaking, (Don't get mad at me every-leader is determined on how well they can lie) from the truth he is speaking without being called RACIST! or being call YOU STUPID WHITE-TRASH REPUBLICAN! I don't really enjoy that.
 

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I just despise his policies regardless if he's a mixed race or whatever. IDC if it's a gay midget or a war hero if I find your policies repugnant then I shall oppose you vehemently. I bitched at the republicans spending habbits and the patriot act so I'll ***** at the democrats massive spending habbits. At least bush realized tax cuts help. Plus even with tax cuts "for the rich" revenue went from 1.6-8 to 2.6-8 T in 8 years.
 

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So many of the negative things that are said about Obama are so outlandish, that it's difficult to understand where they are coming from, because it's certainly not logical in any way, shape, or form. I think it is based on prejudice in some way, but whether it is based in racism or partisan politics is the question. I honestly do think that the more ridiculous accusations are based in racism.
 

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Chima1952 said:
The race card is not being played, Jimmy Carter is exactly right! Racist do not want to be told that they are racist. But the truth is the truth, with Wilson's ignorant outburst, "you lie"
You honestly think that Joe Wilson's outburst was racist in nature? Wilson is clearly an idiot, but claiming that his heckling was racist is just plain ridiculous. If a black democrat shouted "You lie" during a white republican president's speech would you call him racist? I think not.
You claim that the Sons of the Confederates is a racist group. Clearly you are misinformed. The group's real name is Sons of Confederate Veterans. It is a group aimed at honoring Confederate veterans and preserving Confederate history, much like the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War. Some members of the group may have racist beliefs but to claim the group as a whole is segregationist is just plain stupid. I'm sure that the organization's black members, like Nelson Winbush, would be surprised to discover that the group is as racist as you claim. Then again, you probably think the Civil War was fought over slavery.

Wilson's outburst=stupid and ignorant, but not racist
Sons of Confederate Veterans=some racist members, but not racist as a whole

It is possible to disagree with Obama without being racist. To assume otherwise is moronic.
 

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Some people dislike Obama just because he's black, sure. It's a nice dream, to think we've moved past all that, but the fact of the matter is, the civil rights movement as we know it was only 50 years ago. It's only roughly half a lifetime. Don't expect racism to die off until the last of the "old guard" does.

I think it's worth pointing out, though, that people like that are pretty much the minority now. That is to say, they're restricted almost entirely to the South, and there aren't enough of them to really do anything dangerous. Yes, they're a very vocal minority, so the problem seems bigger than it is, but really, it's like one family of rednecks against the entire United States.
 

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bjj hero said:
Flishiz said:
bjj hero said:
Jimmy Carter says that much of the bile against President Barack Obama's health reforms and spending plans is "based on racism". [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8258011.stm]
There's talk of tyranny but no one said much of anything when George W was bringing in the patriot act.
Have to remember though, the incredible insecurity a lot of people felt right after the attacks, so we became a lot more impressionable than we would have been before.
Its a shame that government manipulate the people so easily.
Err, I don't think it was the government that was responsible for the "feeling of insecurity" after the 2001-9-11 attacks and the declaration of global Jihad. I think it was the actual attacks and the reality of the situation that did that.

If anything the government is responsible for changing that fear of attack into anger at the erosion of their rights. I mean there was a time when it was career suicide for a comedian to make even make the most benign joke about terrorism, not any more.

Not that the UK has not had laws like the US Patriot act and worse for decades now. The difference is they were never repealed and there was never much protest against them.
 

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Lowering taxes was a good idea, wasting trillions on a pointless war that we had nothing to gain from was a bad idea. Taking away our freedoms was a bad idea and continues to be a bad idea. Printing valueless money is a catastrophically bad idea, and isn't even a temporary solution.
Lowering taxes with the amount of national debt that the United States has is a terrible idea in the long run. The people who would have their lifestyle changed by having more money taken as taxes are those that buy cheap goods usually produced outside of the United States. Just because as an individual you like paying less in taxes (believe me I dislike seeing my taxes increase as much as anyone else) does not mean that lowering taxes is a good idea.
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
gof22 said:
Quick everyone into the flame bunker *Runs inside*

I like Obama but even I can see that some democrats are using the race thing to much.
how long will the bunker hold!

also I agree that race is definetly something in this because I can't rule out its not but I think its more that many of these people iddnt vote for obama or misinformedly(is this a word) voted for him and are pissed off because he won
I built it the bunker out of steel and dead bodies. Has not failed me yet.

I will agree that some of the people who are against him are against him because they are racist. While some who are racist may like his policies. I don't believe everyone who are against his policies are racist. They just disagree with his policies.

It is like saying someone who hates Star Wars is a Star Trek fan. It just isn't true. While some may very well be Star Trek fans some people do not like Star Wars or Star Trek.

I like both Star Wars and Star Trek.
 

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Not like what's being said about you? Do your accusers look different from you? Play the race card!
 

bjj hero

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Treblaine said:
bjj hero said:
Flishiz said:
bjj hero said:
Jimmy Carter says that much of the bile against President Barack Obama's health reforms and spending plans is "based on racism". [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8258011.stm]
There's talk of tyranny but no one said much of anything when George W was bringing in the patriot act.
Have to remember though, the incredible insecurity a lot of people felt right after the attacks, so we became a lot more impressionable than we would have been before.
Its a shame that government manipulate the people so easily.
Err, I don't think it was the government that was responsible for the "feeling of insecurity" after the 2001-9-11 attacks and the declaration of global Jihad. I think it was the actual attacks and the reality of the situation that did that.

If anything the government is responsible for changing that fear of attack into anger at the erosion of their rights. I mean there was a time when it was career suicide for a comedian to make even make the most benign joke about terrorism, not any more.

Not that the UK has not had laws like the US Patriot act and worse for decades now. The difference is they were never repealed and there was never much protest against them.
I didn't say the government made people insecure. They just jumped on the opportunity to get some draconian legislation through. It did indeed happen in the UK too. Laws do get opposed (ID cards etc) but we tend to be far more reserved than your town hall battles. Check our reporters covering the MP expenses scandal. We're far less emotive.

Hopefully things may be changing. The Torys have pledged to cut some of our government powers regarding storing of DNA samples, CCTV surveillance and scrapping the ID cards scheme. The Tories are talking me round at the moment.
 

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bjj hero said:
Treblaine said:
bjj hero said:
Flishiz said:
bjj hero said:
Jimmy Carter says that much of the bile against President Barack Obama's health reforms and spending plans is "based on racism". [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8258011.stm]
There's talk of tyranny but no one said much of anything when George W was bringing in the patriot act.
Have to remember though, the incredible insecurity a lot of people felt right after the attacks, so we became a lot more impressionable than we would have been before.
Its a shame that government manipulate the people so easily.
Err, I don't think it was the government that was responsible for the "feeling of insecurity" after the 2001-9-11 attacks and the declaration of global Jihad. I think it was the actual attacks and the reality of the situation that did that.

If anything the government is responsible for changing that fear of attack into anger at the erosion of their rights. I mean there was a time when it was career suicide for a comedian to make even make the most benign joke about terrorism, not any more.

Not that the UK has not had laws like the US Patriot act and worse for decades now. The difference is they were never repealed and there was never much protest against them.
I didn't say the government made people insecure. They just jumped on the opportunity to get some draconian legislation through. It did indeed happen in the UK too. Laws do get opposed (ID cards etc) but we tend to be far more reserved than your town hall battles. Check our reporters covering the MP expenses scandal. We're far less emotive.

Hopefully things may be changing. The Torys have pledged to cut some of our government powers regarding storing of DNA samples, CCTV surveillance and scrapping the ID cards scheme. The Tories are talking me round at the moment.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking about the government EXPLOITING the situation rather than MANIPULATING. Using the word 'manipulate' left a completely different impression. They didn't have to convince or "manipulate" anyone as in every corner of society people were demanding action and what else can the legislature do other than legislate? Dumb and short sighted but they had the sense to eventually repeal and amend the worst parts.
 

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Vuljatar said:
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Obama is doing even more to take away our freedoms than Bush did.
Bush created the patriot act that allows the state to ignore human right when they decide they need to, and he constructed prison camps on Cuba that have become famous for prisoner abuse. And Obama is.....aiming to regulate gun ownership? Wow! (Sarcasm).
Obama is expanding and continuing the Patriot Act (several parts of it were set to expire in the near future--not anymore). Not to mention he fucking nationalized GM. I could go on and on...
...please do, that was an abysmal list, with no facts (other than nationalising GM, which has nothing to do with freedom, I might add).

He's expanding...he's stopped parts expiring.

Expanded WHICH bits? Stopped WHAT expiring?
 

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I think that Mr. Carter has a good point, that a lot of the more vocal critics of Obama may be motivated by race, but I'm not so naive as to believe all of them are. Not everyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. That's not a fact, something set in stone. But still, as I said, Mr. Carter makes a good point.