Wadders said:
Again with the assumption that hunters are intent on wiping species off the face of the earth. These birds are bred and reared by gamekeepers for the purpose of being shot and eaten. It has no effect on the overall population, and things like pheasants are not exactly rare anyway. It's no different to say, free range cattle being reared by farmers, then taken to the slaughterhouse and killed. It is in effect an industry, but one that co-exists with countryside tradition. Money is made from shoots, birds are sold to various parties (suppliers, butchers etc) it helps the local economy. It's just because it's not killed in a slaughterhouse that people seem to have a problem with it.
The only way in which it differs from other methods of farming is the way in which they are killed. Free range cattle are mostly killed with a boltgun to their head, pheasants/ quail etc are shot with a shotgun. So what?
It strengthens the ties between people and countryside because many hunters are involved in conservation of species. They live in the area, they like the countryside, they care for it and they learn about it, because doing this ensures that they will have something to hunt next season, and the countryside will not be damaged or changed for the worse. It promotes a general interest in the countryside. Seeing animals in their habitat, knowing where your meat comes from, walking through the forest and checking on your game, all of this is an important part of hunting. The killing is just a part of the overall process.
None of these animals are "wasted" any more than other farmed animals are wasted. And it does taste better. Unless you buy quality, but expensive meat, it probably wont taste the same as something you went out into a forest to kill. Just like free range beef thats lived a decent life outside, killed well and been hung for weeks tastes better than some wastage from a skinny dairy cow thats sold for half the price.
I don't think I even implied that people are out to wipe things off the face of the earth, i just see it as, if you want a bar of chocolate you don't read up on how to make chocolate then make it, you go down the shop and bar some then eat it. Why take the hard way round?
You might of heard of a programme/series called kill it cook it eat it, I watched all of them so I know what happens in slaughter houses.
The difference is one is left with the meat intact the other you have to pull buckshot out it's ass.
You missed my point, if you have shelves and shelves, even entire aisles just for meat, let that go to waste? We might aswell all go out rifle in hand so the shops stop wasting animals (in both meanings of the word).
Well it might just be my taste buds then 'cos I can't tell the difference, I guess thats good for me, I can buy cheap stuff and it still tastes good.
johnman said:
omega 616 said:
So if there is meat on the shelves and loads of it probably already goes to waste why do I need to spend more on buying a gun, ammo etc go out of my way to go were the animals are find one kill it, skin it, take it home, clean it up, cut it up store extra then cook what I want
Its a matter of personal peferance. You dont want to go though all that effort? Then fair enough, dont. But dont start criticising the people who want to do that.
It's a forum, people give there opinions on the topic, that is my opinion on this topic.
killer-corkonian said:
omega 616 said:
If I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?
Why is it ok to kill another animal for food but not a human? Were an animal and were edible, is it 'cos the only thing that separates us is opposable thumbs and a more advanced brain?
Bah, double standards!
What do you get from the shop? Tofu? Do you eat just lettuce all the time? Why is it wrong to kill something yourself but not to eat what someone else has killed? Answer me this.
You want me to list everything I buy from the shops? Please don't remind me of tofu *shudder*.
So 'cos I am against hunting I am a veggie or vegan? What kind of crap is that? (I bet that will get taken the wrong way)
That question doesn't make sense, do you mean "why is it bad to kill something yourself and eat it, as opposed to eating killed by somebody else?" If so, it's because there is perfectly good meat sitting in stores up and down what ever country your in, there is enough meat to keep a pack of wolves busy for week but you ignore all that meat and go out and kill your own.
If there was hardly any meat in the shops, like foot and mouth came back and killed more than last time, then buy all means lock n load but since there is already tonnes of the stuff why waste it? It's like it isn't good enough for you or your using it as excuse to kill.
I don't like fishing either if any body wants to have a go about that aswell, it's the sneakiness of it, then the poor fish being yanked out the water by it's face.
I'd like to turn the tables and wear scuba gear with a massive, I know what you did last summer fish hook, swim underwater then leap out the water hook the fisherman in the mouth and drag him underwater, keep him there for a bit (think isn't he a bewt, look at the colour and texture on that) then release him.