Not 'new', one of the arguments is that the libs dems are inexperienced, i.e. never governed the country. For a party so old, they deserve a shot at it. (That's not to say that all the parties deserve a chance, the BNP can fuck themselves).I am Spy said:The Lib Dems are new now? Sure they might have changed the name slightly after they absorbed the Social Democrats, but the Liberal Party (essentially the same thing) was founded way back in 1859; unless Wikipedia decieves me.Daystar Clarion said:The Lib Dems deserve a shot at it I think. All parties were new at one point, it's time for the Libs to prove themselves.
I myself am too young to vote by several months, but probably would have voted Lib Dem. It'll be interesting to see what happens if theres a hung parliament, especially since it will give me some nice material to write about in my AS Government and Politics exam in a few weeks.
Who the hell is he?Wuvlycuddles said:Although i hope they don't win overall, i voted for a labour candidate, but the guy is actually pretty awesome (for a politician), the guy was spotless in the expenses scandal, staying in travel lodges when he goes to london and didn't even take first class train rides to get there. Not only that he is one of the most frequent and outspoken of the "backbench rebels" in the Labour party. Infact, one of the local minor parties here withdrew their candidate and backed him.
Also, the other guy is a total freak (the one on the right):
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I dunno, that dude just freaks me the fuck out. So does the guy on the left.... hell the whole right wing does. But him more than any other.
I'm not questioning the merits of our workforce but more the back-log of illegals we have. I love that we can be a culturally diverse country but I do get very annoyed when people take away perfectly good fields so they can build a mosque or some other place of worship. I very much like Swedens take on immigration.JemJar said:Whilst there are many good reasons to dissuade someone from backing the BNP, I'm going to avoid the most obviously controversial and skip to the EU:Wedlock49 said:I can't legally vote yet but I'm at odds with all the parties in power. I support the BNP's stand on immigration as well as withdrawing from the EU but i'm not overly keen on some of their other policies.
UKIP are very much the same as the BNP for me.
I do not trust labour even though they're the most logical party for me to vote for.
Liberal Democrates in my opinion wont have the strength to pull us from the recession.
I'm not wealthy enough to see Conservatives as an option.
Green party can go take a walk for all I care.
So i'm left pretty in the middle... I would probably use my vote tactically if it were given to me and vote either Liberal Democrate or Conservative as I haven't any faith in a Labour government.
Do not underestimate the colossal commercial advantage Britain gains from EU membership. The trade revenues that would be lost (both European trade and worldwide from weaker bargaining position) from leaving it is one of the main reasons why none of the major parties are looking to leave the EU any time soon.
There are a lot of people who grumble about "foreigners coming over and stealing our jobs" but:
1) the unemployment stats just don't support that point of view;
2) there are large amounts of highly qualified western Europeans working in London (approx 60,000 French for instance) who oil the wheels of the massive commercial centre which makes the country go round;
3) even the lower qualified ones and/or Eastern Europeans provide the grease which turns the wheels of our economic machine, doing jobs which many British people would turn down or simply don't have the dedication or discipline for. Far from demonising them, we should salute the small army of Polish workers who now clean, cook, pour and generally do all the little things we need to survive.
master m99 said:sorry, I must have misread then! But I do think that only people who vote have a right to complain, but that only applies to people who have the right to vote.Wedlock49 said:i wasnt demonising them in fact what i said was more demonising of average people and there need to hate someone then the person them selfs im not trying to rationalise my lack if interest in politics as i dont belive i have to as it just doesnt interest me. also as i live in the uk i think i have to right to ***** and moan about this stuff if it ends up effecting me. to put it in extreame terms its kinda like a dog if you didnt like them and didnt learn anything about them you still have to right the moan if one bites you in the ass...man i suck at explaining these things...that and spellingmaster m99 said:your age isn't a factor, I'm too young to vote as well. But showing an interest in politics is always good, you can't just demonize them all. I read your post as a reasoning as to not vote so I responded in kind.
I choose not to vote for my own reasons. I agree, my one vote could make a difference as to who is elected. However, I truly don't beleive whoever gets into power will make any difference. Yes, I have the right to vote, but I also have the right not to.Phantom_IEC said:I find this offensive tbh, We have the right to vote and one vote can make a difference. You should consider yourself lucky to be in a country where free elections take place and you should take full advantage of that.Psychophante said:I didn't bother. Couldn't care less who f**ks this country up next.
Nice, right to complain as reason to vote. Somehow doesnt look diferent from not voting at all.Wedlock49 said:Then you've no right what-so-ever to complain about anything that the government comes into power.master m99 said:tbh i dont really keep up with or care about politics granted im 17 but still, at the end of the day where going to end up hating the guy in power and using them as a nice convienent blame figgur anyway. im not trying to be a downer or anything i just honistly belive we need someone to hate/blame and the more powerfull someone is the more likly they are to become that figure.
I wasn't questioning that.Vitor Goncalves said:Nice, right to complain as reason to vote. Somehow doesnt look diferent from not voting at all.Wedlock49 said:Then you've no right what-so-ever to complain about anything that the government comes into power.master m99 said:tbh i dont really keep up with or care about politics granted im 17 but still, at the end of the day where going to end up hating the guy in power and using them as a nice convienent blame figgur anyway. im not trying to be a downer or anything i just honistly belive we need someone to hate/blame and the more powerfull someone is the more likly they are to become that figure.
And if someone votes for the winning party its actually even worse at the light of your argument as it's that someone's fault they are in power.
To clear things up, master m99 is 17 and thats the reason he didn't vote. He is also right when he says everybody will be blaming the PM in a couple of months down the road for all the bad things happening to the country.
I voted on a major party.
You are aware that it's not obligatory to post a comment on EVERY thread you see, right?PurpleSky said:The_root_of_all_evil said:Nothing quite as crass as who you voted for as that would probably be illegal, but what actually did you do?
Just as a confirmation: Liberals/Labour/Tories are classed as major parties.
I had to choose at random because somebody failed to add a I'm Not British option,I hope you're happy
Unless they are just a little slack with the rules where I live, all you need is the card sent to you through the post.Sir-jackington said:i wanted to vote but couldn't because i got my wallet stolen last week and have no ID now