Really Microsoft, Just Make Yourself A Monopoly And Get Over It That Way You Don't Have To Steel.

[rainman2203]

You don't seem to understand how an open market works. There needs to be competition if products are to improve and for prices to stay low. That's what we call "Caaapppiitaaalllisssmmmm". What you are suggesting, (an equal footing for all, with no economic incentives to improve), is closer to... dare I say it... Communism! And that makes you a COMMUNIST!!!

Seriously though; exclusives are annoying when they aren't on your console, but your solution to that little quandary simply isn't plausible. Nor economic. Nor logical.

 

[letsnoobtehpwns]

I'm happy that Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are coming the the Xbox 360. It can reach out to a larger audience and give more American gamers a taste of Japan.

Anyone else get the feeling that Metal Gear Solid Risen is going to be a first person shooter?

 

[yeah_so_no]

I'm so confused as to how Microsoft is going to make FF exclusive for the 360, since, while FF13 is for PS3 and xbox in Europe and North America, FF13:Versus is PS3-only, FF13:Agito is for PSP, and FF13 itself is a PS3 exclusive in Japan. Did I miss something?

Seems like they know there are more 360's in the West, and are porting their big money-maker accordingly.

 

[The Madman]

You know, I don't even like Metal Gear nor have I ever, don't even own a 360 regardless, but this latest announcement has been the most entertaining thing since... well... something that was extremely entertaining happened.

Jumping from forum to forum and watching the fanboys writhe and scream in agony, the shouting and accusations, the denouncements and drama! Oh my! It's enough to make my cynical side all warm and tingly as I bask in the glow of utter idiocy brought to light across the internet.

Ahhh... the screams of the fanboys... is there any sweeter music?

I think the point I'm trying to get across here is: Who gives a damn? Well, other than you obviously. But you DO realize it's just a game right? Right?

Oh, and it's 'steal'.

 

[scotth266]

Because you're doing so at the direct sacrifice of quality?

I have yet to see Kojima ***** about how badly the 360 is limiting the plans for his game. In fact, I'd like to think that he never would have even been bothered to make a multiplatform release unless he knew he could do it without sacrificing quality. He likely views it as a challenge: and it's his first crack at the 360's hardware, to push it as far as he can. We'll get a good game regardless.

Because that would actively be a good thing, and that is precisely the last thing Microsoft want to do.

*Eye twitches slightly*

Dingo, I must wonder how you process information at times: it seems as though every positive news bit made about Microsoft is filtered out by your eyes and ears.

I'd dare say that Microsoft has made a lot of efforts to do good things: getting Squeenix and Kojima to develop games on their system being one of them.

 

[neoman10]

I spy a Sony fanboy... As it happens, Microsoft aren't always stealing Sony's thunder, and even if they did, it's competition. They're perfectly within their rights to do whatever it takes to get more sales, more revenue, more profit, as long as they don't use unfair practices. I honestly can't see anything wrong with this.

exactly what I thought, especially the first part though

 

[Knonsense]

Monopolies are bad. Trusts are bad. All of these things are very, very bad. And very, very illegal.

The console you describe would be really, really, really expensive. Because it would run software that's designed for three different architectures and three different sets of controls. Also, monopolies make everything really expensive.

UPDATE: if anyone is to have many exclusives it should be Sony becase you can acually play the game on the console befor it getts the RROD and if it does get a system failure then the customer suppor is much better.

UPDATE,UPDATE: The single console concept would not end competition, people are still going to make a competition on which game is best and will try to top them, it would just end the ruthlesness.

You are undermining your argument for conflict resolution with your irrational Sony fanboyism here. Even if you are not a fanboy, you are acting like one.

There would be competition between game studios, not between consoles if there were one console. And the people who produce this one-console-to-rule-them-all would probably take massive chunks of the profits those games produce. Because they are a monopoly and they can if they are allowed to exist. EDIT: I should probably also mention the level prices for console games would rise.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

It bears mentioning that the licenses that Microsoft is "stealing" from Sony aren't exactly being kidnapped in the night or anything. More platforms means more sales of their game. In this economic climate, most people who don't have one of the two major systems aren't going to shell out it just to play one or two games. Mostly likely, Joe 360 will be perfectly happy to just not play Little Big Planet or whatever, rather than spend a couple hundred bucks he could have used for food and shelter.

So, more platforms mean more sales, more sales means more publicity, more publicity means more sales... Ah, the circle of money.

I'm not for or against either company, but it's a developer's choice whether they want to make a game exclusive or not. Don't blame the buyer when the seller is equally/more responsible.

I would also hope that the early 20th century has taught us all how horrible trusts are.

 

[Weaver]

STEEL is a metal.
STEAL is to take without asking.

 

[Knonsense]

I mentioned this on another thread but I think rather than making one console (a really bad idea) they should allow other electronics manufacturers produce game machines that play their games. I didn't buy a 360 because of the rrod but I would consider a 360 game playing console by a Panasonic or a Samsung... if it didn't also have a chronic hardware defect.

If there was only one console and that had a chronic problem, I would go berserk.

From what I hear the red ring has diminished considerably.

Anyway, the main problem with this is that consoles are sold at a loss and must be compensated by game sales so either the third party consoles (which would suck if not produced by Logitech) would cost much more than the first party or everyone and their mom would have to get an arbitrarily sized piece of the pie for these consoles to succeed.

 

[KSI Hellboy]

Because you're doing so at the direct sacrifice of quality?

I have yet to see Kojima ***** about how badly the 360 is limiting the plans for his game. In fact, I'd like to think that he never would have even been bothered to make a multiplatform release unless he knew he could do it without sacrificing quality. He likely views it as a challenge: and it's his first crack at the 360's hardware, to push it as far as he can. We'll get a good game regardless.

Because that would actively be a good thing, and that is precisely the last thing Microsoft want to do.

*Eye twitches slightly*

Dingo, I must wonder how you process information at times: it seems as though every positive news bit made about Microsoft is filtered out by your eyes and ears.

I'd dare say that Microsoft has made a lot of efforts to do good things: getting Squeenix and Kojima to develop games on their system being one of them.

Another good thing is that 1 vs. 100 game show game, I just got done playing it and, it's hella fun and costs nothing. Don't bother arguing with or proving Indigo wrong, it's pointless. a.k.a.

Like I said. TIN. OF. WORMS.

Squeenix, lol.

 

[capnjack]

Ok, I don't know about you, but Microsoft must have some really deep pockets or their steeling money from Bill Gate's wallet. They have now bought out the MGS franchise doing the same as last year when they bought the FF franchise.

Now I have nothing wrong with any exclusives and acually I havent played any either of these games so none of my thoughts are biased.

What are you saying? This isn't about "Microsoft" having big pockets. This is about developers wanting to make THE MOST money possible, so they're more willing to port their games to other consoles. This is a GOOD thing because it means more games. It does NOT indicate a monopoly. A monopoly is the exact opposite thing.

But now microsoft is taking away any exclusives from the PS3 just to say they have them. I really hope that Microsoft isn't going to make the MGS or FF franchises exclusives for the Xbox 360 because that would alienate any PS3 gamers that have ever thought of playing those games.

Were you drunk when you wrote this? Microsoft isn't "taking away exclusives... to say they have them". They are trying to get in on the action, since these are great games and they want their user-base to have more access to great software.

How can you think this is a bad thing?

My point is that Microsoft must be secreatly deaparete to have to steel Sony's thunder every E3.

Dude. They are in a competition. They are not two little brothers trying with big egos. They are businesses trying to make money and trying to outdo each other.

What I think companies should do is make a single console that can work with all PS3 games, all 360 games and all Nintendo games all connected to the same server so that gamers can all play together. Or just make a completly new console that has games worked on by all of the big 3 so that there isn't going to be this ruthless fight to the death to see who has the most exclusives. This would also make it much easier for developers to make their games because what ever make only has to be configured for 1 console, not 2 or three.

*face-palm*

THAT is what a monopoly is. It is GOOD that we have three seperate companies engaging in a "ruthless fight to the death", because that means PRICES drop, and those companies do their best to provide us with high-quality content.

The competition this year has been great, and if anything, we just need MORE companies to make MORE consoles. If they have similar specs, that's even better, because multi-platform games are a GREAT thing.

Seriously, kid, learn a little about economy.

UPDATE: if anyone is to have many exclusives it should be Sony becase you can acually play the game on the console befor it getts the RROD and if it does get a system failure then the customer suppor is much better.

So, in other words, you are mad because you are a Sony fanboy and your favourite company isn't doing well?

Um, boo hoo? If they're not doing well, it's because they've been a shitty company for the last couple of years. Sony needs an entire reframing of their philosophy.

UPDATE,UPDATE: The single console concept would not end competition, people are still going to make a competition on which game is best and will try to top them, it would just end the ruthlesness.

Thank you for, yet again, displaying your extreme ignorance. If there is only one console, there is NO incentive for price drops, NO incentive for system updates, NO incentive for anything. Look at Nintendo - they have very little competition, because they're getting most of their profit for markets Sony and Microsoft can't touch. Because of this, all Wii owners get is a white Wii for $250, for two and a half years, when the console costs chump-change to make.

Please, kid, think before you post.

 

[Fenring]

Microsoft are in the "iron and steel industry" now?

No no no. Metals are now verbs. I'm going to iron. We mercury. He/She/It silvers.

Am I the only one who thought the OP came off a little fanboy-ish? I wouldn't really have a problem accept I think he's trying to hide it. Most fanboys here are willing to wear their respective colors on their sleaves, and I respect them for doing that.

I find it funny he thinks companies buying games to make them multi-plat is a bad thing. The companies get more money, the owners of the system that wouldn't normally get the game get to have fun too, everyone wins.

The reason MS has so much wind in their sails right now is that they 1) Had the first press conference. We haven't been able to see any of the stuff the Sony or Nintendo will have, and 2) MS brought a lot of new and interesting things to the table, Milo and the motion camera thing I forgot the name of, and a few new exclusive games, which the other two companies will undoubtedly have a few of their own.

EDIT: OH! Twitter and FaceBook, I love both of those!

 

[Leorex]

your just a fanboi. get over it.

 

[Kinguendo]

Thats not how you spell steal.

Oh, and so what?

Exclusives sell less, so why would game makers want that? Its a business, less money, less games and if they keep making less then even less money and then you lose them... and down the plug-hole goes gaming... Is that what you want? Is it? :O

 

[Yog Sothoth]

troll detected.........

EDIT: M$ is no more or less greedy or manipulative than Sony or Nintendo. All they're doing is the same thing that any other company would do. They will exploit any and all advantages they have, and use whatever leverage they can muster to sell more games....

 

[Brotherofwill]

No matter how you try to mask it, this is fanboy flaming against Microsoft. Nice try hiding it though.
Also, companies have crossed platforms to nab a bigger fan base before. You know, like when MGS came to the GC. Which is kind of funny that people complain that MGS should be a PS exclusive. Because, oh, I don't know, Metal Gear got it's START on the NES.

It didn't start on the NES. I don't think a lot of people will be pissed that the game will come to 360 but a lot of them are pissed if it turns out exclusive. If he had ported MGS 4 then I'd be pissed because he actively said that he wouldn't, this is just an entirely new IP with new ideas so it doesn't matter if it also turns out on the Wii.

I'm still slightly worried that if this turns out to be a large project (which I don't think it will be, who could stand seeing that ugly and whiny face for more than 10 hours afterall?) Kojima's vision might get compromised due to technical limitations. He's a smart dude, sure he'll find a way to make it happen.