Yeah, except one Apple is a Seven Foot Tall, genetically modified Killing Machine and the other is a Seven Foot Tall Genetically Modified Killing Machine with 10x the Fanboys. Guess who is who.
Spartan Vs Astartes
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Astartes don't go down like a punk immediately after the shields go down. Are probably just as strong if not stronger, and fight with what is basically the boys recoilless rifle mixed with the Halo 1 pistol mixed with an M4. Plus, there are armies of them. Somewhere in the region of 1000 if my knowledge of 40k mythology is up to date. The imperium may be on the decline, but if the covenant were to rear their heads against them, it really wouldn't even be a close fight.
I'd hope that Magot just ploughs into Master Chief in a requisitioned Land Raider or something.Mathak said:
Ah, Magot... why you so fictional and lesbian?
I well thinks that's a bit unfair since the question is generalised to just average Spartans and simple Battle Brothers not terminators and elite brass (Never in my life did I believe I would use the words 'average' and 'simple' to describe either warrior)SckizoBoy said:
Though I do agree with your comment about who would win if Spartans vs all the ranks of the Astartes
You know what the reduced speed at which an Astartes in terminator armour would move (I now it's very minimal but that's all it would take) a Spartan could circle them and stab them in the back making their storm shield kinda useless
*Meh*, I'm inclined to agree. Though the rules for Terminator Armour are a bit weird. They don't decrease the wearer's dexterity at all, and they can still 'run' in the shooting phase, but after combat, they fall over themselves when they try to chase, which is stupid. Ne?!Titan Buttons said:
I reckon they should've gone the whole hog and said:
Terminator Armour = 2+ AS & 5+ IS
If fleet, lost (on account of Shrike, fucking hell, the 'tiptoeing assault terminators' were ridiculous!)
Can't run, can't overrun & Relentless
That way, they wouldn't be so prohibitively expensive. Guh!
Anyway, if a Spartan tried stabbing them in the back, it still wouldn't work. I've always imagined it as follows:
Terminator swings Thunder Hammer/Power Fist downwards (let's face it, the marine's going to be much larger), Spartan dodges, unsheathes his sword and vaults up the Marine's arm, spots a ***** between helmet and armour, BAM! Space Marine spine/both hearts etc = jelly. Spartan win.
Neither! An Imperial Guard artillery battalion receives wrong firing coordinates, and shells the battle. Both the Chief and the Space Marine are vaporized by the sudden onslaught of Earthshaker shells.
OT Space Marines have the Might of the Emperor. Chief has... Cortana. I may be wrong, but I think mystical space god trumps logic in this case.
OT Space Marines have the Might of the Emperor. Chief has... Cortana. I may be wrong, but I think mystical space god trumps logic in this case.
this one is easy. Just need to open any 40k book or game. "In the 41st Millenium There is only war" That is all there is to it. No Halo spartan would be able to take on a space marine who is trained to fight everything from Human Heretics to aliens to demons from the warp. All spartan's do is fight aliens.
I didn't say it was a sensible plot line. The only really logical explantion is that mabye he has become sort of warp manifestation of mankinds collective warp presence; sort of like how Slaneesh was formed from the Elders collective doucheness. The warp only became so messed up because of the Old Ones war with the C'Tan; it used to be peaceful and suitable for children to view without being mindf*ckedMr Thin said:
I have to admit I don't collect Space Marines but I am a big fan of the Black Library, so my point where made mainly on what I've read they can do terminator armour slows them down. Also most of your codex terminology is a bit hard to follow but I do understand overall points your making and I agree with you, the statss just don't fit properly.SckizoBoy said:
Also your scenario makes a lot more sense then mine
Its heartening to see this thread has not blown into a flamewar. I was sure I would find furiously raging vs. thread but its actually quite calm...
OT:Yeah this is not a vs. in MC favor. SM are so overpowered its not even funny (then again WH40k world being what it is, even that power isnt enough...).
I think somebody mentioned that MC is about as strong as silverback gorilla with suit on? SM is as strong as gorilla without a suit. WITH suit on, SM has enough grip strength in one hand to easily pulverize a rock.
for those intrested in fluff heres what you need to make one of emperor's finest: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine
The line soldier battle brothers alone usually have centuries worth of experience and are revered by humanity as demigods. Then we have the named Space marines, who have titles such as Lord of Death, God of War, etc.
EDIT: oh , and space marines are usually collectively known as "Angels of Death" ...soooo yeah.
OT:Yeah this is not a vs. in MC favor. SM are so overpowered its not even funny (then again WH40k world being what it is, even that power isnt enough...).
I think somebody mentioned that MC is about as strong as silverback gorilla with suit on? SM is as strong as gorilla without a suit. WITH suit on, SM has enough grip strength in one hand to easily pulverize a rock.
for those intrested in fluff heres what you need to make one of emperor's finest: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine
The line soldier battle brothers alone usually have centuries worth of experience and are revered by humanity as demigods. Then we have the named Space marines, who have titles such as Lord of Death, God of War, etc.
EDIT: oh , and space marines are usually collectively known as "Angels of Death" ...soooo yeah.
These "religious aliens" are bent on destroying all life, as are the zombies which chief also fights. Both have means to do so.norwegian-guy said:
That said, the assault rifle and pistol from halo are absolute shit when it comes to armor penetration, not to mention the fact that space marines come 38,000 years after the chief, meaning their tech is way beyond his. So, the Astartes would win.