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Devi Darkside

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Well, mine is a bit more awkward, I have a crush on a beautiful woman, but they're straight and I'm a soon to be pre-op woman. (AKA: Shemale, transgendered female planning to get the operation.)

It's hard to escape the "friend zone" when you know they'd get too attached to the current sexual organs.
 

rsvp42

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As for the original post, my advice is to decide early on if you want to pursue a girl. Make it part and parcel to how you interact with her in the beginning. Obviously, it takes practice knowing what works (and even I'm still working my way up), but if you decide from the start to treat her like a girl you want to date, you won't slip into the Friend Zone unawares.

If you DO get into that Zone (and no bullshit, we all know when we are) it's best to just give it up, at least for a while. Try contacting her less and meet new girls. Maybe if you change how you interact with her you can tip the scales a bit, but it's a long shot. Besides, save for a few exceptions, most guys who pine for a friend that's not interested are only doing that to avoid going out and finding someone new. It's an easy excuse for staying in the comfort zone: convince yourself that your best girl friend is the love of your life despite knowing it's never gonna happen. "Oh, I can't find anyone as wonderful has her! I'll just mope about it until, out of sheer force of ANGST, things change."

Please.

I vowed never to let that happen again. Consider this a renewal of that vow.
 

Mazar_Nomoid

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llAVALANCHEll said:
Dude I got to thank you. I felt the same way about a girl a few years ago and the same thing happened to me. I read your "abridged" and decide to make an account so I could ask for you to give the whole story. But seeing as you did..that was also the same ending I got with the girl I liked as well. Seeing that other people have the same problem makes the pain lessen a bit. SO thanks for the read.
 

Gudrests

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ADVICE!!!.....i was MAJOR friend zoned by a girl....well really about 10 of them..1 girl i said im not your friend..but ill tell you the truth about everything..she hated me..realised i was right... then wanted to date me.
#2 i always invited to my wrestling matches. on a match i knew i was gonna win, i winked at her and blew her a kiss in the middle of the match and gave her a random kiss on the cheak and walked her home, quite soon after... "i wanna go out"

Ya gotta act like there friend...but have moments where its like..i can be more and be sweet/nice/random/sexy about it. easy to learn..difficult to master
 

Mr Montmorency

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llAVALANCHEll said:
Mr Montmorency said:
Hell yeah. You've gotta build up a battle plan.
Alright then, the following is a series of journal entries:

March 6:

Today, typical of any other day as of late, I spent my entire time waiting
faithfully for [Her Name] to log into Messenger. Around 3:00 P.M., right when I had gi-
ven up on her logging on, she did. Our conversation was nothing unique. However,
that conversation was by far the high point of my day. Now, as I am writing this
I find myself contemplating my own life, the choices I've made, the hardships I've
endured, and the opportunities that I allowed to pass me by. I've found that, in spi-
te of it all, I haven't changed much over the years. I may have become more tolerant
of the errant behaviors exhibited by my peers, however, that is merely a change that
society mandated that I make. As far as friendship goes, I have changed ever so slig-
htly over the past few years. I may be more open to social communication as of late,
however, my capacity for trust has dwindled greatly and is now virtually nonexistent.
Not so long ago, I was capable of keeping a single friend; now even the weight of a
single friend is far to taxing. As far as my progress with [Her Name] goes, it is nei-
ther my past or present hardships nor my lack of trust that have stilted my efforts.
It is my own insecurities and personal cowardice that hold me back; and I have no one
to blame for these faults excluding myself. For I am crippled by the fear of the un-
know, and any interaction concerning [Her Name] will always constitute an unknown res-
ponse. I am also bound by my belief that any interference in the lives of others is
wrong on a fundamental level. As a relationship with me would simply impede the prog-
ress of [Her Name]'s life, I find me urging myself to stop my futile efforts; for I ca-
nnot and will not place my own happiness above the happiness of [Her Name]. Honestly, I
do not see why anyone would ever choose to be with me, as I am expendable in every
way; I have nothing to offer anyone that someone else could not. I am far from uni-
que; I am merely an insignificant spec in the vast universe we live in. Regardless o-
f my feelings towards [Her Name], I can not and will not allow her to go through the
torturous ordeal of entering into a personal relationship with me; for I care for her
far too greatly to allow that.


March 8:

Today, I found out that [Her Name] is moving. Graduation is not the actual rea-
son she will be leaving in under a month; she will merely be riding another bus. It
would seem that this is how life goes for some people like me. Life holds that whi-
ch you desperately desire in front of you, only to hastily pull it just outside of
your grasp. Some people were simply made to suffer; and it would appear that I am o-
ne of those people. My life has been one tormentingly long, painstaking, and cruel
string of hard learned lessons. For I have been taught through a series of torturous
odeals, in the same method a dog is trained through the use of a shock collar. Howe-
ver, looking back on all the injustices I have experienced, I can not but be greatf-
ul. For these occurrences have made me the person I am today. Perhaps this sick cos-
mic joke the universe would appear to be playing at the expense of my happiness and
my life has some purpose to it. However, I can state with absolute certainty that
this ordeal will be the hardest I will ever have to overcome; that is if I can over-
come this torture. One thing is certain; I will never let myself forget [Her Name].


April 1:

Today, was [Her Name]'s last day on the bus. It is rather ironic, that the univ-
erse has chosen today, April Fool's Day, to play the most excruciatingly painful joke
humanly or otherwise possible on me...


April 8:

It has been one week since I last spoke to [Her Name]... I find it difficult to
continue on, as I now have virtually nothing to look forward to day after day. The o-
nly thing I can do now is to gaze solemnly into the lifeless void that my very existan-
ce has been reduced to. I suppose it would be best for [Her Name] to simply forget me
and move on, to let me be but a brief cliff-note as it were in the book of her life.
Never the less, I cannot but wonder how events might have transpired given different
circumstances. All I know is that, despite my wish for myself to be but a mere cliff
-note in [Her Name]'s life, I will always know that in my heart she is the dedication
to the epic tale of woe that is to be my life's story.


April 9:

Today is the start of Spring Break... In stark contrast to the optimistic na-
ture of my peers, my "vacation" will serve as nothing but a device to mercilessly to-
rture me as the days drag on. I find myself losing more of what pitiful semblance of
hope I have allowed myself to cling desperately to as each second of my empty exista-
nce passes me by. Now, in the depths of despair, I find that "hope" is, in reality,
the worst of all evils to be released from Pandora's Box. Hope is merely a lie shro-
uded in one's own naivety and unwillingness to accept reality as it is, a lonely, de-
sperate, disconcerting, terrifying, desolate, and all together miserable "place" emb-
elished in its own atrocity. Most people go there entire lives doing all that they c-
an to evade the true nature of the world that surrounds them; I, however, have been
cursed by my having experienced and recognized the true nature of reality, a truth
that will surely haunt me until my dying breath.


April 10:

Another day has passed me by as I have sat idly waiting for that which has s-
eemingly escaped my grasp forever. I have foolishly been trying to tell myself that
[Her Name] is simply too busy to speak to me as of late; however, I cannot shake the
feeling that she is simply attempting to do that which I cannot, to put the events t-
hat have transpired over the past year behind her and to shift her gaze toward the
future. If this is true I have no one to push the blame upon excluding myself, as I
would not want to waste my precious time engaging in pleasantries with a chronic los-
er such as myself. For I know through experience that I am neither worth the effort
nor the trouble to anyone, even to myself. I suppose I should continue to further my
own pathetic attempt to delude myself into believing that something "good" will come
of the relentless punishment that life has dealt me. For if I do not, what do I have
left to live for?


April 24:

Life has progressively worsened over the past several weeks. I find that eac-
h new day, devoid of any discernible hesitance, has seized the opportunity to prove
itself as the worst day of my miserable existence. For every time I convince myself
that things cannot possibly be any worse, life chooses to show me first hand that, i-
ndeed they can. I have failed myself and those around me in every way comprehensible;
recently, I have failed my team-mates, my teacher, and most of all myself at the
Math Competition, as well as at Honors Night. However, most importantly I feel th-
at, somehow, I have even managed to fail in my foolish attempt to prove myself as wo-
rthy of [Her Name]'s affections to myself. If the situation continues to degrade at su-
ch a rapid pace, I believe that, eventually, my life will become unbearably lonely and
miserable; However, from my perspective life is already very near such levels of lo-
neliness and misery. So, at least I don't have very far to fall...


May 8:

Several grueling days have passed since the departure of the Seniors. [Her Name] has responded to neither the CD nor the email. As each day drags on, the notion of
my never seeing her again is given more credence. As of late, I have spent my time
writing and even drawing; it would seem that the longer I am apart from [Her Name], the
more I do to ensure that I will never forget her. Last night I went to [My Friend]'s party.
I feel that the only possible incentive for anyone to invite my anywhere is usually
pity, and it would seem last night was no exception. As per usual, at the party I was
the one person who lacked a belonging with the social group attending. I spent most
of my time at the party simply trying not to get in the way and to remain as unnotic-
ed as humanly possible. While I remained widely unnoticed at the party I gazed out
the window at the stars and contemplated upon the time I have spent with [Her Name] ov-
er the last two years. Ironically, now that I have squandered the time that was once
available to spend with [Her Name], I can see my mistakes dancing around inside of my
mind taunting me with the solutions to situations long since gone. And all the while,
despite my dreary situation I cannot let go of the sliver of hope that, one day, I
may once again see [Her Name]. This, of course, being the same hope that makes me a sl-
ave to my computer, never leaving its side in light of the faint possibility that she
may log on. At the very least, I can take solace in my belief that somewhere in some
parallel universe exists a [My Name] and a [Her Name] that have found happiness together...


May 14:

Yet another week has wrought it's unrelenting punishment and anguish. I can
feel the effects of the turmoil that my empty, miserable life has become weigh me do-
wn increasingly more with the passing of every remaining day of my solemn existence.
I have yet to receive, nor do I have any hope to receive a response from [Her Name].
The only shred of purpose remaining in my "life" is the prospect of achieving some
vague semblance of recognition in my academic career. Nevertheless, I will always
feel as if a part of me is missing without [Her Name] in my life. I find it ironic that,
not long ago, I was unable to fathom the notion of having loved and lost being better
than having never loved at all; however, I can now see the undeniable truth in this
logic, as I would never trade the time I spent with [Her Name] in order to spare myself
the comparatively minimal pain that I must now endure for the remainder of my days.


May 23:

Here I am three days after the final departure of the senior class. The prob-
ability of my ever meeting [Her Name] again now ranges from zero to negligible. I find
myself pondering my purpose in this vast, mysterious universe we live in; upon much
reflection, I find that, at the moment, I can only identify what cannot possibly be
my purpose in life. I am a failure in almost every aspect of my life; I am clearly
not here to serve as anyone's companion along the journey of life. I am far removed
from the intellectuals capable of rendering any assistance in the advancement of sci-
ence. I am merely here, serving no purpose whatsoever, wandering aimlessly down the
path of life, now so with no one to guide me. I have lost the closest thing to love I
will ever experience, and I have no faith that my work will ever yield any contribut-
ions to society.

May 25:

All hope is lost. Today, I finally received a response from [Her Name]. Needle-
ss to say, my final gesture was fruitless. I suppose I saw this coming while it was
still light years away; never the less, the effect is still equally devastating. I be
live this entry will be my last, for I see absolutely no likelihood of my current si-
tuation ever being resolved. I will merely squander the rest of my life wishing thin-
gs were different, waiting for something that will never happen, and going over my m-
istakes again and again every second of every minute of every day.

And that is another large chunk of the story.

Note: (Sorry about the weird cut offs, I wrote these in Notepad.)
Thanks. I know I'm not the only one. Sadly, I ended up pouring myself out onto a crazy *****. Actually, 2 crazy bitches. But it's neither here nor there.

Life gives you lemons? Well, it gave me a pine cone instead.
 

AdamRBi

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Yeah no, I can't even begin to consider dating someone without diving headfirst in to the "Friend Zone." Anyone who actually wants a relationship and not just a Sex Doll, Status Symbol, or Loneliness Eraser probably feels the same way. There's only one possible situation where this is adverted and that's if you really, naturally hit it off when you first meet. And that's just as rare as finding the right one by chance, that's movie luck right there.

And if you do break from friends in to a relationship, screw up, and the friendship is lost forever?... Probably wasn't the best friendship. I've had two girls I did that with, several months later we were back to being friends. Awkward levels were a bit high in the following months, but it cooled down eventually.

To be honest, even as a guy I can't see any reasoning to bother someone you just met with that kind of advance. That just screams "I want you for sex." Which, actually is usually what it is so, communication accomplished.

As for girls, I can't speak for their reasonings. Some just don't take personality and character over looks and status. Though can't blame them for that, that's what all female animals do. Just like all male animals just have that primal urge to pass off as many of their seeds as possible.

Thanks You Nature.
 

Mr Montmorency

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llAVALANCHEll said:
Mr Montmorency said:
llAVALANCHEll said:
Mr Montmorency said:
Hell yeah. You've gotta build up a battle plan.
Alright then, the following is a series of journal entries:

March 6:

Today, typical of any other day as of late, I spent my entire time waiting
faithfully for [Her Name] to log into Messenger. Around 3:00 P.M., right when I had gi-
ven up on her logging on, she did. Our conversation was nothing unique. However,
that conversation was by far the high point of my day. Now, as I am writing this
I find myself contemplating my own life, the choices I've made, the hardships I've
endured, and the opportunities that I allowed to pass me by. I've found that, in spi-
te of it all, I haven't changed much over the years. I may have become more tolerant
of the errant behaviors exhibited by my peers, however, that is merely a change that
society mandated that I make. As far as friendship goes, I have changed ever so slig-
htly over the past few years. I may be more open to social communication as of late,
however, my capacity for trust has dwindled greatly and is now virtually nonexistent.
Not so long ago, I was capable of keeping a single friend; now even the weight of a
single friend is far to taxing. As far as my progress with [Her Name] goes, it is nei-
ther my past or present hardships nor my lack of trust that have stilted my efforts.
It is my own insecurities and personal cowardice that hold me back; and I have no one
to blame for these faults excluding myself. For I am crippled by the fear of the un-
know, and any interaction concerning [Her Name] will always constitute an unknown res-
ponse. I am also bound by my belief that any interference in the lives of others is
wrong on a fundamental level. As a relationship with me would simply impede the prog-
ress of [Her Name]'s life, I find me urging myself to stop my futile efforts; for I ca-
nnot and will not place my own happiness above the happiness of [Her Name]. Honestly, I
do not see why anyone would ever choose to be with me, as I am expendable in every
way; I have nothing to offer anyone that someone else could not. I am far from uni-
que; I am merely an insignificant spec in the vast universe we live in. Regardless o-
f my feelings towards [Her Name], I can not and will not allow her to go through the
torturous ordeal of entering into a personal relationship with me; for I care for her
far too greatly to allow that.


March 8:

Today, I found out that [Her Name] is moving. Graduation is not the actual rea-
son she will be leaving in under a month; she will merely be riding another bus. It
would seem that this is how life goes for some people like me. Life holds that whi-
ch you desperately desire in front of you, only to hastily pull it just outside of
your grasp. Some people were simply made to suffer; and it would appear that I am o-
ne of those people. My life has been one tormentingly long, painstaking, and cruel
string of hard learned lessons. For I have been taught through a series of torturous
odeals, in the same method a dog is trained through the use of a shock collar. Howe-
ver, looking back on all the injustices I have experienced, I can not but be greatf-
ul. For these occurrences have made me the person I am today. Perhaps this sick cos-
mic joke the universe would appear to be playing at the expense of my happiness and
my life has some purpose to it. However, I can state with absolute certainty that
this ordeal will be the hardest I will ever have to overcome; that is if I can over-
come this torture. One thing is certain; I will never let myself forget [Her Name].


April 1:

Today, was [Her Name]'s last day on the bus. It is rather ironic, that the univ-
erse has chosen today, April Fool's Day, to play the most excruciatingly painful joke
humanly or otherwise possible on me...


April 8:

It has been one week since I last spoke to [Her Name]... I find it difficult to
continue on, as I now have virtually nothing to look forward to day after day. The o-
nly thing I can do now is to gaze solemnly into the lifeless void that my very existan-
ce has been reduced to. I suppose it would be best for [Her Name] to simply forget me
and move on, to let me be but a brief cliff-note as it were in the book of her life.
Never the less, I cannot but wonder how events might have transpired given different
circumstances. All I know is that, despite my wish for myself to be but a mere cliff
-note in [Her Name]'s life, I will always know that in my heart she is the dedication
to the epic tale of woe that is to be my life's story.


April 9:

Today is the start of Spring Break... In stark contrast to the optimistic na-
ture of my peers, my "vacation" will serve as nothing but a device to mercilessly to-
rture me as the days drag on. I find myself losing more of what pitiful semblance of
hope I have allowed myself to cling desperately to as each second of my empty exista-
nce passes me by. Now, in the depths of despair, I find that "hope" is, in reality,
the worst of all evils to be released from Pandora's Box. Hope is merely a lie shro-
uded in one's own naivety and unwillingness to accept reality as it is, a lonely, de-
sperate, disconcerting, terrifying, desolate, and all together miserable "place" emb-
elished in its own atrocity. Most people go there entire lives doing all that they c-
an to evade the true nature of the world that surrounds them; I, however, have been
cursed by my having experienced and recognized the true nature of reality, a truth
that will surely haunt me until my dying breath.


April 10:

Another day has passed me by as I have sat idly waiting for that which has s-
eemingly escaped my grasp forever. I have foolishly been trying to tell myself that
[Her Name] is simply too busy to speak to me as of late; however, I cannot shake the
feeling that she is simply attempting to do that which I cannot, to put the events t-
hat have transpired over the past year behind her and to shift her gaze toward the
future. If this is true I have no one to push the blame upon excluding myself, as I
would not want to waste my precious time engaging in pleasantries with a chronic los-
er such as myself. For I know through experience that I am neither worth the effort
nor the trouble to anyone, even to myself. I suppose I should continue to further my
own pathetic attempt to delude myself into believing that something "good" will come
of the relentless punishment that life has dealt me. For if I do not, what do I have
left to live for?


April 24:

Life has progressively worsened over the past several weeks. I find that eac-
h new day, devoid of any discernible hesitance, has seized the opportunity to prove
itself as the worst day of my miserable existence. For every time I convince myself
that things cannot possibly be any worse, life chooses to show me first hand that, i-
ndeed they can. I have failed myself and those around me in every way comprehensible;
recently, I have failed my team-mates, my teacher, and most of all myself at the
Math Competition, as well as at Honors Night. However, most importantly I feel th-
at, somehow, I have even managed to fail in my foolish attempt to prove myself as wo-
rthy of [Her Name]'s affections to myself. If the situation continues to degrade at su-
ch a rapid pace, I believe that, eventually, my life will become unbearably lonely and
miserable; However, from my perspective life is already very near such levels of lo-
neliness and misery. So, at least I don't have very far to fall...


May 8:

Several grueling days have passed since the departure of the Seniors. [Her Name] has responded to neither the CD nor the email. As each day drags on, the notion of
my never seeing her again is given more credence. As of late, I have spent my time
writing and even drawing; it would seem that the longer I am apart from [Her Name], the
more I do to ensure that I will never forget her. Last night I went to [My Friend]'s party.
I feel that the only possible incentive for anyone to invite my anywhere is usually
pity, and it would seem last night was no exception. As per usual, at the party I was
the one person who lacked a belonging with the social group attending. I spent most
of my time at the party simply trying not to get in the way and to remain as unnotic-
ed as humanly possible. While I remained widely unnoticed at the party I gazed out
the window at the stars and contemplated upon the time I have spent with [Her Name] ov-
er the last two years. Ironically, now that I have squandered the time that was once
available to spend with [Her Name], I can see my mistakes dancing around inside of my
mind taunting me with the solutions to situations long since gone. And all the while,
despite my dreary situation I cannot let go of the sliver of hope that, one day, I
may once again see [Her Name]. This, of course, being the same hope that makes me a sl-
ave to my computer, never leaving its side in light of the faint possibility that she
may log on. At the very least, I can take solace in my belief that somewhere in some
parallel universe exists a [My Name] and a [Her Name] that have found happiness together...


May 14:

Yet another week has wrought it's unrelenting punishment and anguish. I can
feel the effects of the turmoil that my empty, miserable life has become weigh me do-
wn increasingly more with the passing of every remaining day of my solemn existence.
I have yet to receive, nor do I have any hope to receive a response from [Her Name].
The only shred of purpose remaining in my "life" is the prospect of achieving some
vague semblance of recognition in my academic career. Nevertheless, I will always
feel as if a part of me is missing without [Her Name] in my life. I find it ironic that,
not long ago, I was unable to fathom the notion of having loved and lost being better
than having never loved at all; however, I can now see the undeniable truth in this
logic, as I would never trade the time I spent with [Her Name] in order to spare myself
the comparatively minimal pain that I must now endure for the remainder of my days.


May 23:

Here I am three days after the final departure of the senior class. The prob-
ability of my ever meeting [Her Name] again now ranges from zero to negligible. I find
myself pondering my purpose in this vast, mysterious universe we live in; upon much
reflection, I find that, at the moment, I can only identify what cannot possibly be
my purpose in life. I am a failure in almost every aspect of my life; I am clearly
not here to serve as anyone's companion along the journey of life. I am far removed
from the intellectuals capable of rendering any assistance in the advancement of sci-
ence. I am merely here, serving no purpose whatsoever, wandering aimlessly down the
path of life, now so with no one to guide me. I have lost the closest thing to love I
will ever experience, and I have no faith that my work will ever yield any contribut-
ions to society.

May 25:

All hope is lost. Today, I finally received a response from [Her Name]. Needle-
ss to say, my final gesture was fruitless. I suppose I saw this coming while it was
still light years away; never the less, the effect is still equally devastating. I be
live this entry will be my last, for I see absolutely no likelihood of my current si-
tuation ever being resolved. I will merely squander the rest of my life wishing thin-
gs were different, waiting for something that will never happen, and going over my m-
istakes again and again every second of every minute of every day.

And that is another large chunk of the story.

Note: (Sorry about the weird cut offs, I wrote these in Notepad.)
Thanks. I know I'm not the only one. Sadly, I ended up pouring myself out onto a crazy *****. Actually, 2 crazy bitches. But it's neither here nor there.

Life gives you lemons? Well, it gave me a pine cone instead.
It's always good to know that you are not alone...
So, shall my saga continue?
Please.
 

MrDarkling

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eh happens all the time for me.
Being a gentlemen doesn't get you anywhere it seems hehehe.
 

Acid Armageddon

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I've been friendzoned by like 6 girls, including one, who I am not exaggerating in ANY way, was a total slutbag whore. She would sleep with random dudes (and even got pregnant!) then came crawling back to me because I had money. Needless to say I told her to GTFO, so I don't deal with her anymore. Sadly, plenty of the other girls who have friendzoned me are nice and I like(d) them :(
 

ultrachicken

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I'd personally rather be friends with a girl than be in a romantic relationship with one, but that's just because of my age.
 

ultrachicken

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RhombusHatesYou said:
ultrachicken said:
I'd personally rather be friends with a girl than be in a romantic relationship with one, but that's just because of my age.
You should probably know now, women don't get much saner or comprehensible with age.
I'm not going to confirm or deny that, but all of the relationships that have developed in my class have lasted 2 days to 2 weeks.
That just seems like a waste of time and effort if the relationship isn't going to go anywhere.