"I'm sorry Mochán, but I find that an erroneous claim. How would the universe end if there's a limitless energy supply? Everything must die at some point in time. People, trees, rocks, planets, stars, galaxies, and even the universe itself. There is no such thing as limitless energy. The sun seems limitless because it's been around with us for so long and changes so little over the course of an average lifetime. But the fact of the matter is, it's going to end. Everything must end at some point."
"And another thing, it's impossible to claim that magic disobeys all the rules if all the rules haven't been established. When you open a book of physics laws, you're seeing the past models that people have seen that's tried and true under experimentation. But as the book continues you see that there were some unexpected observations that made people question reality. It's proof that what we know isn't everything. I cannot stress this enough. And from that we experiment on this observation and revise our model. And whole cycle repeats. What you call 'magic' could just be some form of law that is a whole part of reality that hasn't been discovered yet. Now, for your universe that may be the case, but there has been no hard evidence on my world for it so far. That's the critical difference."
"And another thing, it's impossible to claim that magic disobeys all the rules if all the rules haven't been established. When you open a book of physics laws, you're seeing the past models that people have seen that's tried and true under experimentation. But as the book continues you see that there were some unexpected observations that made people question reality. It's proof that what we know isn't everything. I cannot stress this enough. And from that we experiment on this observation and revise our model. And whole cycle repeats. What you call 'magic' could just be some form of law that is a whole part of reality that hasn't been discovered yet. Now, for your universe that may be the case, but there has been no hard evidence on my world for it so far. That's the critical difference."