Why do PC gamers get so much hate

[Takoto]

Well most of the PC Gamers I know are very elitist, and "up their own asses" as one might say. I've never met one who isn't...

 

[Tyranicus]

Well, generally maintaining a PC to play modern games can be expensive, which is why a pc gamer can come off as an elitist.

True, Its a pain in the ass when your computer dicides to take a shit on you just one random morning.

 

[Hiphophippo]

I'm not reading this whole thread, or any of it, but it should come as no surprise to anyone that humans feel the need to be superior to other humans. If it's not because of gaming set ups it's going to be about something else.

That said, I'm a PC gamer and I feel my platform superior to consoles but I DO have a 360 that I get a lot of enjoyment out of. It depends on the game really whether I get it for PC or my 360. RPG and more complicated fare along with FPS games I usually get on the PC, but more action oriented games end up in the box.

Mods though, that's always the final nail in the coffin for my 360. If I can mod a game and get replay value out of it of course I'll get it for my PC.

But I'm no elitist. To each their own. Games are fun regardless of how you enjoy them.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Why would I refer to everyone who plays consoles when I have two consoles myself?

You weren't, but it appears that way.

Are you sure? I made the first post in this argument, you responded.

And then you started arguing over the definition.

I suppose. Whatever.

Read the entire post.

I did, proven by the fact that I responded to pretty much everything. You didn't justify why the definition of elitism is ignored in our case, you just said that everything is invalid. Poor form.

Ah but expecting what is standard is still elitism and goes back to the definition which doesn't count for some reason...).

Expecting a certain thing, anything, because the game is on the PC is elitism.

Lol. You don't even understand the definition that you yourself posted.

Read those two again and you will see that they don't contradict each other or go against the definition given by dictionary.com. I apologize if I'm making myself hard to understand here, that is not my intent.

By straw man I mean "the Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position."

Alrighty then, but I still fail to see how my argument is a Straw man. Evidence to back up this claim would be helpful but by doing so would in fact be getting a little bit strawy itself so I would understand why you wouldn't. Still, blatantly calling this argument a straw man is a rather weak attempt wouldn't you say?

MW2 is a perfect example of how consoletards completely fail to grasp the nature of PC gaming and how they are happy to take it up the ass from the game industry without a word of complaint.

No, that would Call of Duty 4. That game implemented matchmaking for the franchise I think. I've never played number three and my memories of two are blurry to say the least. Playing on a matchmaking system is hardly 'taking it up the ass' though. By playing a matchmaking system on a console only removes small details such as round limit, direct map choice, constant radar and a few other things. Even in hosted maps these are beyond the control of the average player anyway, unless you have a fair and easy going host. Sometimes you get one but most of the time you don't.

And yet on these very forums you constantly see consoletards proclaim that gamers have no right to expect or demand anything because corporations know best.

I rarely see that. No one will say 'you have to play this game even though it sucks' and why would they? They may reply that it doesn't suck but that doesn't mean that everyone has to play a particular game. You have a warped view on these things.

It's the PC's nature to offer things like superior graphics, superior input options, command consoles, dedicated servers, development tools and other things. When we receive these things it is standard treatment, nothing out of the ordinary and nothing unexpected. It's what the PC is all about. To consoletards it may seem like we're living the clouds, but that's just their perspective. They can't comprehend the idea of PC gamers expecting things that consoles do not have.

As I said before, because it's standard doesn't mean demanding it is not elitism.

Mouse control and different screen resolutions are absolutely fundamental, standard features on the PC. If a port doesn't include those then it can fuck right off to console land because it has no place on the PC. Again you claim that expecting even the most bare essentials is elitism.

Ah but you didn't read what I said. I claimed that expecting a purely better experience because the game is on the PC is elitist. I don't consider wanting a good game (or even working game) because you just want a good game is elitist, nah not at all. But then you do have things like mouse controls which improve the game (depending on tastes) so again, I'm not exactly sure how it fits in.

Apparently PC gamers are just scum who have no right to expect, demand or wish for anything, despite the fact that they're paying customers.

Woah, I didn't say that. I think that you should pay more attention and calm down. I see nothing wrong with being a PC elitist granted you don't ram it in peoples faces. If you want a better experience than you have every right to demand it.

I can't see this argument going anywhere. I'm willing to keep it going but I have a feeling that neither party is about to back down.

 

[Bigeyez]

PC gamers have the stereotype of being elitist bastards just like how Xbox players have the stereotype of all being high pitched 12 year olds.

It's a stereotype based a little on reality, but blown out of proportion. Just like any other sterotype in existance.


Edit: A lot of the posts in this thread pretty much explain why a lot of gamers think PC players are elitist douchebags. So there ya go.

 

[Katana314]

To anyone saying the PC players are being unfair to expect "standard" features on their platform, I point you to this joke article I wrote:
http://www.ablanknotebook.com/journal/?p=10

To anyone saying that PCs are just better in each and every way: You're wrong, and shut up.
To anyone saying that Xbox fans always make unfair complaints about the PC: You're wrong, and shut up.
Now in the above two lines, replace PC with XBox and vice-versa, and we're done here.

 

[Kstreitenfeld]

Well most of the PC Gamers I know are very elitist, and "up their own asses" as one might say. I've never met one who isn't...

now are you saying they are "up their own asses" just because they dislike consoles and may jokingly bash them from time to time or are they genuinely being assholes about it?

 

[Danny Ocean]

As a PC gamer I view Xbox live as a place for a bunch of 11 year olds

that is why.
PC gamers always seem to come off as self righteous pricks who consider any non-pc gamer below them and think that they are superior just because they play on pc.
they refuse to take any else's opinion and always want to seem smart for some reason.

Uh. Don't you agree with the quoted sentiment? I've got live, and I'd have to say he's pretty much right on the money. Perhaps that's just my experience, my accent must attract lambasting.

point proved.

No, not proved. You have no way of knowing who made that image. It's meant as a joke, don't take it seriously.

Man, this thread is crazy.

There are too many different points to argue, so I'll just say this, as a quadruple platform gamer [footnote]My PC and 360. Best friend's PS3, and friend's Wii. I visit them both often.[/footnote], with a preference to PC's:

Spoiler: Click Here

PCs:
spacerFlexible; Capable of being more powerful; Varying in price, it can be argued that they are both cheaper and more expensive, depending on how you look at it; Have access to free stuff on the web; Not that high maintenance- most games auto-patch, just like on my 360; Not really subject to viruses; more complicated; have a different interface.

Summary: Computers are objectively superior tools in many ways, but are much more complicated, a bit more expensive, and require not insignificant effort to build, should choose to do so. Also fun if you like tinkering.

Consoles:
spaceInflexible; Often less powerful; Cheaper at default, but everything seems to cost (I gawped at the 70 pound RRP for my 360's wireless adaptor.); The 360, at least, suffers from subscription costs; Can be pirated, and often are, but it's harder; have a different interface.

Summary: Easier, cheaper at point of use, no effort really needed, uniform hardware; however, more expensive in the long-run (50 pounds for a game! Erk! 70 pounds for wireless! Come on!), far more limited capabilities, and, surprisingly, less reliable (in my experience![footnote]My 360 has RRoD twice, and laserburned two disks. PC has never broken. Must just be me.[/footnote]).

Both are good. It just depends what you want.
spaceIf you want ease of use, go console. If you want adaptability and capability, go PC. Be warned though, you'll need to put in some effort and a bit more cash for the latter.

Simple: PC's are more powerful, but more complicated and can be more expensive; Consoles are simple and cheap, but very limited and have hidden costs.

Easy, right? Pick the one that's right for you.

PC gamers are not being elitist.

space[footnote]Thanks for the article, Katana314.[/footnote]A recent interview with developer Infinity Ward has shown plans to release Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for the Nintendo Wii in Q2 2010. The move has surprised many, including myself, due to the major differences between the 360 and Playstation 3 platforms, versus the Wii's low-graphics, motion-oriented standards. When asked about how they would be incorporating motion controls into the game, Infinity Ward Assistant Designer Nodda R. Guy replied;

"In simple terms, we won't be. We've been committed to providing an equal experience on all platforms, and we'd like to include the Wii in that. We don't fully trust the Wii's motion controls to be fair to everyone, and it would also mean one feature that the 360 version doesn't get. After seeing hundreds of titles that only get motion controls on the Wii, but not on the 360, we feel this is just desserts, in a way."

With the subtraction of motion controls comes another equalizer, in which IW mentioned that they may be 'toning down' graphics for release on the Wii, due to its less powerful graphics processor. Of course, citing their policy of an equal experience, this means the 360, PS3, and PC versions of the game will have reduced, blocky textures and fewer special effects to keep everything the same for everyone.

Pissed off yet?

Try and have some empathy for your PC-gaming brethren, console players. They are gamers just like you. They are accustomed to more because they put in more effort and pay more[footnote]A lot of the time, anyway.[/footnote]. Complaining when they don't get what they are used to and- indeed- expect isn't a bad thing. After all, these things have been standard for a long time. What if cars started being sold without steering wheels, having a lever instead?

Hell, why aren't you complaining about the subscription fee, lack of keyboard support[footnote]Not because it's a better controller, it's just that typing with thumbsticks is so damn slow.[/footnote], lack of dedicated server system for most games, and dated hardware?

This all boggles me.

 

[teutonicman]

Because everybody likes to have a whipping boy.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

To anyone saying the PC players are being unfair to expect "standard" features on their platform, I point you to this joke article I wrote:
http://www.ablanknotebook.com/journal/?p=10

To anyone saying that PCs are just better in each and every way: You're wrong, and shut up.
To anyone saying that Xbox fans always make unfair complaints about the PC: You're wrong, and shut up.
Now in the above two lines, replace PC with XBox and vice-versa, and we're done here.

But the PC is better at what it dose and that includes gaming but the PC has plenty of pitfalls the 360/PS3/(insert inferior proprietary hardware of choice here) has its own pitfalls but manages to 2 things well enough ease of use for 1 or 2 things(gaming,disc video watching) and game choices, the PC sadly dose not have the game software choices but makes up for it in everything else if you are skilled enough to be able to build a PC once every 2-5 years for 500 or less.

In the end IMO the PC is superior like a bookworm hyper intelligent non ghoulish super model but has alot more upkeep and baggage while consoles are simple attractive enough and easier to..er...play with..... ..... LOL

 

[0p3rati0n]

Console gamers are jealous of our developer's tools and mods. No?

I'll buy that for a dollar.

OT- I don't know what to say. I have a PC, 360, and Wii. I see positive things in all of them along with negative. Basically what ever game can be found on a 360 can be found on a PC. I really don't know what to say........

 

[gerrymander61]

It's because we're superior and everyone knows it. Same reason why people hate on whitey all the time.

 

[Axeli]

I use both PC and consoles for gaming, and PC mostly these days. But I still have to say it's the elitism.

For the love of god, in this very thread the posts in favor of PC gaming aren't defending the PC gamers, but telling how much better PC is or how stupid the console crowd is. Maybe there's some subtle irony there, demonstrating exactly why console gamers are annoyed by you.

Or maybe you guys are just twats.

 

[ArchBlade]

Wow, it's just so nice to see so many honestly hurtful statements and blatant elitism going on in one thread. Are you people for real? I can't believe you can still take yourselves seriously if you honestly have some sense of elitism based on what system you use to game on.

No, seriously, what the hell? Where did all this elitism even come from in the first place? It's just games people. By Christ. I'm pretty sure we're all blowing our money away for the same ultimately pointless purpose, so how about we at least agree to treat each other fairly in that regard?

I meant no offense to anyone, but come ON. All the generalization and elitism over something we do to have fun confounds me. It's unnecessary and every other descriptive power barred, stupid, especially when there are those of us who love our consoles just as much as we love our PCs.

 

[The Bandit]

The only PC gamers that bother me are the ones who either go off on how much consoles suck, or the ones who go "oh, yeah, i spent about 2000 bucks on my elite XFM7500 computer drive thing, blahblahblah." No one cares.

 

[Jsnoopy]

....Yeah to honest, it seems like PC gamers, at least on this forum, do most of the hating, not the other way around. I mean if I had no life like some people arguing in this thread (*cough* firedaemon, bagodix *cough*) I could easily go through the posts on this topic and my prediction would be that the console-hater comments would outnumber the PC-hater comments by a large margin. In fact, if you were to look at most of the threads, discussing consoles, longer than 2 pages, I think a good 15%-20% of the posts are console-haters talking about how much better the PC is.

 

[TOGSolid]

You are aware that the Xbox controller is a USB adapter and is 100% plug and play on Vista...

I've had one for a long time now. I loves me some Devil May Cry 4 LDK mode (yay for PC exclusive game modes) with it. It's just the fact that it was a picture that was supposed to be demonstrating one of the many reasons a PC is vastly superior to a console, and yet the guy was playing a cross platform game with a 360 controller rather than the picture showing him playing a tricked out flight sim with a full HOTAS setup, or something like that.

Yes, I know that a gamepad is actually a handy tool for driving games, but still, it was just the context of the picture.

 

[Megacherv]

Console fanboys/somethings get a hard on when they see PC gamers, due to our unique sexiness but they try to hide it by hating us.

Yup yup.
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In all seriousness, they don't like us because we feel entittled to things they don't have. That and we look down on them from which is perceived as "Elitism".

Not my fault I hate dislike all of you whiney Live people XD

I play on both the PC and consoles, I'm breaking down barriers dammit! Does this mean I get to be an ambassador?

We are the hybrids!

I think it's just because PC gamers come off as cocky.