Why so much PC gamer hate recently?

[FlitterFilms]

I'm fairly confident nobody maintains a good PC set up just because they love games, they do it because they love their PC, and why the hell not, PC's are awesome and I'm supremely jealous of anyone who has an impressive set up. However, don't just buy a PC for gaming, that's stupid.

Why is that stupid? The only things my computer does is light internet surfing and play games and as soon as it gets a better processor (and it could do with a touch more RAM) it will be a fairly good gaming PC, I am idiot for not using it to do more? It's my PC if I want to use it to play nothing but minecraft then I shouldn't be branded an idiot for doing so.

I probably didn't express myself clearly, I didn't mean you had to do more with your PC in the sense of using it for more things than gaming. What I was trying to say is if all you want to do is play a game (that is to say a game not exclusively in the PC world because then you don't really have a choice) and you don't intend to maintain your PC by replacing parts and seeking out the best updates and blah blah blah then that is what's stupid. If you just own a PC for gaming and don't look after said PC then that is stupid. You sound like you do know something about your PC and show it the attention it deserves in which case if all you want to do is game with it that's fine, that's what you got it for and if you're take the appropriate care of that PC to have the best gaming experience you can then that's how it should be.

I was lashing out at people who don't understand PC's and mistakenly buy one because they think it's automatically superior when in reality their attention span is better suited to a console that requires very little (if any) maintenance. I know there are people like that out there. If you just want to game and don't really care too much about the finer details then a console is the way to go absolutely. Owning and maintaining a PC is a bigger commitment than simply wanting better quality in your games, better quality in your games is the reward you get for taking that commitment seriously.

Hope that clears that up.

 

[omega 616]

I'm fairly confident nobody maintains a good PC set up just because they love games, they do it because they love their PC, and why the hell not, PC's are awesome and I'm supremely jealous of anyone who has an impressive set up. However, don't just buy a PC for gaming, that's stupid.

Why is that stupid? The only things my computer does is light internet surfing and play games and as soon as it gets a better processor (and it could do with a touch more RAM) it will be a fairly good gaming PC, I am idiot for not using it to do more? It's my PC if I want to use it to play nothing but minecraft then I shouldn't be branded an idiot for doing so.

I probably didn't express myself clearly, I didn't mean you had to do more with your PC in the sense of using it for more things than gaming. What I was trying to say is if all you want to do is play a game (that is to say a game not exclusively in the PC world because then you don't really have a choice) and you don't intend to maintain your PC by replacing parts and seeking out the best updates and blah blah blah then that is what's stupid. If you just own a PC for gaming and don't look after said PC then that is stupid. You sound like you do know something about your PC and show it the attention it deserves in which case if all you want to do is game with it that's fine, that's what you got it for and if you're take the appropriate care of that PC to have the best gaming experience you can then that's how it should be.

I was lashing out at people who don't understand PC's and mistakenly buy one because they think it's automatically superior when in reality their attention span is better suited to a console that requires very little (if any) maintenance. I know there are people like that out there. If you just want to game and don't really care too much about the finer details then a console is the way to go absolutely. Owning and maintaining a PC is a bigger commitment than simply wanting better quality in your games, better quality in your games is the reward you get for taking that commitment seriously.

Hope that clears that up.

I am mainly a console gamer, I just prefer it.

I bought a PC 'cos I love RTS games and consoles should never have an RTS on them, I bought more RAM 'cos I needed it (it had 2 halves so I swapped one for a 3gb), I bought a graphics card 'cos the other one was really old and newer games were unplayable on it, I need a processor 'cos I really want to plsy SC2 and the one I have isn't up to the job.

I have no freaking idea how to clean up files or maintain a computer further than "defrag" and the clean files thing. I have no idea how to change PC parts, my brother talks me through it.

I buy parts out of necessity rather than increasing performance, which is why I prefer consoles, there is no messing about and the graphics on a console are more than enough for me. In fact, I think crysis style graphics are too much, it looks more real than real life does.

 

[Wolfram23]

Might be graphics whoring, but damn. And that's an 8800GTS which in todays standard would be about a $150 mainstream card. (Actually probably less).

Anyway... I think a lot of PC gamers are just enthusiasts much like the analogy someone already said about people who drive cars vs motor heads. I see people driving their mini vans and rusted out '88 civics, and good for them. But for me, there's a reason I picked an 02 RSX Type S. Just like there's a reason I built my own PC with crossfire 5850s and an i5 750 CPU and then went ahead and overclocked the hell out of everything. I also have a PS3 and love playing games on it too, but given the choice I almost always get the game on PC.

 

[Continuity]

Anyway... I think a lot of PC gamers are just enthusiasts much like the analogy someone already said about people who drive cars vs motor heads. I see people driving their mini vans and rusted out '88 civics, and good for them. But for me, there's a reason I picked an 02 RSX Type S. Just like there's a reason I built my own PC with crossfire 5850s and an i5 750 CPU and then went ahead and overclocked the hell out of everything. I also have a PS3 and love playing games on it too, but given the choice I almost always get the game on PC.

Thats well said, I am a PC elitist or at least I always end up sounding like one in debates, but yeah, really I'm just an enthusiast and I know what I like: which in most cases is what is offered by the PC platform. I guess I just get protective about it sometimes.

 

[mrhateful]

I know this topic has been posted 1-2 times per year...but honestly, i've been posting in march mayhem and every round theres some post, "escapist is mostly pc gamer this, escpaist is biased etc.."
I'm a pc gamer, but also i own consoles ps3, wii etc...

So why the hate ?

Do I look like a hateful pc gamer to you?

 

[FlitterFilms]

I'm fairly confident nobody maintains a good PC set up just because they love games, they do it because they love their PC, and why the hell not, PC's are awesome and I'm supremely jealous of anyone who has an impressive set up. However, don't just buy a PC for gaming, that's stupid.

Why is that stupid? The only things my computer does is light internet surfing and play games and as soon as it gets a better processor (and it could do with a touch more RAM) it will be a fairly good gaming PC, I am idiot for not using it to do more? It's my PC if I want to use it to play nothing but minecraft then I shouldn't be branded an idiot for doing so.

I probably didn't express myself clearly, I didn't mean you had to do more with your PC in the sense of using it for more things than gaming. What I was trying to say is if all you want to do is play a game (that is to say a game not exclusively in the PC world because then you don't really have a choice) and you don't intend to maintain your PC by replacing parts and seeking out the best updates and blah blah blah then that is what's stupid. If you just own a PC for gaming and don't look after said PC then that is stupid. You sound like you do know something about your PC and show it the attention it deserves in which case if all you want to do is game with it that's fine, that's what you got it for and if you're take the appropriate care of that PC to have the best gaming experience you can then that's how it should be.

I was lashing out at people who don't understand PC's and mistakenly buy one because they think it's automatically superior when in reality their attention span is better suited to a console that requires very little (if any) maintenance. I know there are people like that out there. If you just want to game and don't really care too much about the finer details then a console is the way to go absolutely. Owning and maintaining a PC is a bigger commitment than simply wanting better quality in your games, better quality in your games is the reward you get for taking that commitment seriously.

Hope that clears that up.

I am mainly a console gamer, I just prefer it.

I bought a PC 'cos I love RTS games and consoles should never have an RTS on them, I bought more RAM 'cos I needed it (it had 2 halves so I swapped one for a 3gb), I bought a graphics card 'cos the other one was really old and newer games were unplayable on it, I need a processor 'cos I really want to plsy SC2 and the one I have isn't up to the job.

I have no freaking idea how to clean up files or maintain a computer further than "defrag" and the clean files thing. I have no idea how to change PC parts, my brother talks me through it.

I buy parts out of necessity rather than increasing performance, which is why I prefer consoles, there is no messing about and the graphics on a console are more than enough for me. In fact, I think crysis style graphics are too much, it looks more real than real life does.

What you've mentioned is more work than some people I know can be bothered with, lol. I did say this though;

(that is to say a game not exclusively in the PC world because then you don't really have a choice)

Which kind of fits in with RTS games that I agree don't really work on console. If you need a PC to play the games you want to play then that's just what you have to do. Pretty much how I started. I prefer consoles for the same reasons you mention and haven't played anything on my PC or upgraded my system since Half Life 2. If we agree that consoles are more efficient then I'm not sure why it feels like we're arguing but sorry if I offended you at all.

 

[GotMalkAvian]

Uuuuh... I didn't say it wasn't a Bioware game or an RPG, I just expressed my opinion.
Which is: I don't like DA2 as a Bioware game or an RPG, but I still like it
Apart from that I agree with your points.

Yup. Sorry. My bad. I misread your post. I can agree with you that DAII isn't entirely up to par with BioWare's usual standards, and probably would've been much better received as the first entry in a new series.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I'd don't care what people say for every PC elitist on this site and the internet there is a console elitist waiting to take the flamebait. Some things the PC and consoles just do better.

I know I will probably get flak for this but a mouse and keyboard is better than a controller. If they could fix motion controls for FPS gaming that would be king but unfortunately that is not 100% there yet. A controller cannot alternate between 800, 1600, 2400 and 3200 DPI within less than a second and have 2 different sensitivity settings. That degree of control and accuracy is just not possible. You may prefer or be better with a controller than kb+M. I have used both and started on controller so I can say from my own experience mouse is better for aiming.

Although consoles do movement better with the analog so controllers kick keyboard's ass when it comes to game like DMC, PoP and 3d platformers. However, on the PC you can get a controller so even if you really did prefer that over kb+M for other games then you have the option. PCs are meant to be for people who want near 100% customisation and personalisation. They are for people who are willing to go through troubleshooting and googling fixes. They are for people who want the free and amazing mod support that Bethesda and Stalker(amongst others) have. Consoles on the other hand are for the gamer who just wants to lounge back on their comfy couch/bean chair shove in a disk and play. No waiting no worries that it won't work just play. Simplicity. Neither is better just for different people but they do excel in different areas which is why some genres have evolved better on each system.

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Fair enough building a PC can be hard for your first time giving it a try I will give that. Building a PC is a tad daunting. I have never ever had my anti virus interfere with my gaming ever. Even if there was a problem with that or anything else just google it. You are never the only one. No one is saying it is as simple as consoles but it does not require a high level of intelligence. You just need a bit of patience and perseverance.

the mouse and keyboard set up means most pc gamers can ain faster than a console gamer can
but how does that make them better for FPSs i mean auto aim just slows your aim on the target slightly so as to compensate for the slight loss of control in a controller when compared to a mouse
consoles are cheaper and easier to use which makes them more popular with the majority of gamers
pc gaming requires knowledge of building and keeping up to date a high end computer than can cost several thousand pounds at best
RTSs still cant exist on a console properly but just because things are different does not make them better.
why does the extra control of a mouse and keyboard make pc gaming better
they are just different
now both of you console gamers and pc gamers go and play some damn games and stop arguing about when you could be playing games or doing something else.

No auto aim aims for you and is basically a watered down aimbot. Aim assist slows down your turn speed when over a target and to a lesser degree drags mouse but this depends on game. It makes it better for FPS gaming as a crutch is not needed to play effectively. Console gaming being cheaper than PC really depends on the volume of games you buy new and peripherals you get and how often you upgrade. PC gaming should never cost several thousand anything. I've already stated what each system excells at and why I think they are equal so I won't restate.

 

[gustcq]

I know this topic has been posted 1-2 times per year...but honestly, i've been posting in march mayhem and every round theres some post, "escapist is mostly pc gamer this, escpaist is biased etc.."
I'm a pc gamer, but also i own consoles ps3, wii etc...

So why the hate ?

Do I look like a hateful pc gamer to you?

No not at all >.>

 

[ClaytronJames]

Because people don't know how to just be Gamers, they have to make distinctions like PC gamer, or Console gamer.

Sad truth

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

I'll just share the same ancedotal experience I share in all of these threads: I played PS3 and 360 exclusively for years, built a gaming PC last fall, and now that's all I play. I use the same TV, chair, and controller, but all my games look noticeably better. The mouse and keyboard function infinitely better for shooters and most rpgs. I don't even play strategy or MMO games, but they're obvious about a thousand times better on a PC. Through Steam and other digital distribution platforms, I've got a massive library for a fraction of what you'd pay on a console.

The only downside to the PC? I've got six fans, so my machine hums a bit. I cancel that out with a quality headset. Otherwise, I see no reason to play my PS3 or 360 other than the rare exclusive. Then again, I'm in my late 20s and employed, so I've got the disposable income to assemble a pretty decent setup. That wasn't the case when I was younger, so I got down on consoles. What did I do when some "pc elitist" talked smack? I ignored him. I definitely didn't argue with him, though, because I would have been wrong.

 

[Fusioncode9]

Well, because most console owners are jelly that their mum wouldn't buy them a PC and had to settle with some wannabe dvd-player.

Actually pc gamers are only into pc because their parents wouldn't buy them a console. And you do realize that the PS2 heavily popularized the DVD format. So much of your post just screams elitist, and I bet your one of the people who voted for mojang instead of nintendo.

 

[hem dazon 90]

Moviebob's flock of sheep pretty much. Don't worry once he goes back to ranting about halo and how the world sucks and how getting bullied in high school should be met with genocide and how he is a true genius and could conquer the world and they'll stop acting like that.

 

[Musiclly enhanced]

you really have to think what are PC gamers
People that play the occasional game on PC or just own a pc to play the occasional game of farmville
or the people that spend hundreds on the exact weight of their gaming mouse and play all day everyday (elitists)

 

[captain_Bubblebum]

why can't we all just get along and focus all our hate on the real enemy - Social networking sites? They are fucking disgraceful, and I say this with a completely generalized opinion of what social networking stands for and who it's prime demographic are.

I believe social networking sites to be the whores of society - people longing for the hope that someone gives a shit.

It's just the next gen of the celebrity world and we would all, as gamers, be much happier if we directed our hate towards them instead of ourselves. Why shit on your own front doorstep when you can shit across the street?

EDIT: You may argue, why shit on a doorstep when you can shit in a toilet? Well, honestly? I find it refreshing.

 

[Plurralbles]

I dno, it's irritating on both sides of the fence.

I wish there just wasn't a damn fence.

Both have hteir merits. One or the other would make hte market more efficient- but not asking you to choose.

Due to the melding of the two: COnsoles getting keyboards and mice and multimedia functions, and the PC getting controllers and the ease of getting and setting up, "gaming pc" just makes it look stupid to complain about either.

 

[Alden Hou]

its not that we are "elitists" but because we are threatened by the larger majority market. take battlefield for example, the bf2 had 64 person multiplayer, 6 man squads, and artillery and commander, ea and dice saw how good cod was doing, and decided to scale it down into bad company and bad company 2, very little multitasking, no arty, no jets, or commander, and only 4 man squads and 4 limited kits. So i wouldn't call it dumbing down, its more like we are insecure that all our treasured game devs have abandoned us to gain more money off of hyped up milkfests.

EDIT: but it really comes down to controls for me, if all PS3 games supported mouse and keyboard, i would prolly be playing all my games on a console.(except BF3(yes i preordered it(yes im using triple brackets) which only supports 64 multi on pc).

 

[mrhateful]

why can't we all just get along and focus all our hate on the real enemy - Social networking sites? They are fucking disgraceful, and I say this with a completely generalized opinion of what social networking stands for and who it's prime demographic are.

I believe social networking sites to be the whores of society - people longing for the hope that someone gives a shit.

It's just the next gen of the celebrity world and we would all, as gamers, be much happier if we directed our hate towards them instead of ourselves. Why shit on your own front doorstep when you can shit across the street?

EDIT: You may argue, why shit on a doorstep when you can shit in a toilet? Well, honestly? I find it refreshing.

The good old my enemy's enemy is my friend argument... While I do agree social networking sites are the worst.. However they don't hurt me the most, xbox and ps3 does that because all potentially good games gets dumbed down or are given awful controls just to accommodate the crappy controllers those consoles have. Also personally I like to mod/map myself and those options are taken away completely. So its really no wonder I or any PC gamer hate consoles since its directly taking stuff away from us.