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StellarViking

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Lu Bu in the Dynasty Warriors series.

I know he was one of the most, if not the most, powerful individual warrior in the Three Kingdoms era, but seriously Koei.
 

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ShaggyEdiddy214 said:
Batman.
For one thing even though Gotham was shitty I bet the idea of being a lawbringer never crossed him until his parents died.
Another way he is a selfish prick is how he won't kill because that would corrupt him.Last time I checked peoples lives are more important than your feelings and he KNOWS the joker is gonna make another (insert contraption thats only weakness is a batarang here) and be back next week.
Plus does anyone remember Arkham Asylum where Bats got fear gassed and forced to watch his parents death all over again?If he were really smart and as "trained" as he says he is he would get over the illusion with sheer mental power.Too bad he has none.
And don't you think it would be wise to form a team Batman because the "Im solo" thing is resulting in near DEATH.Your one guy,the cops aren't worth a scrap of paper,and your defending an entire city.
So, you're saying that because Batman couldn't negate the effects of a drug that causes hallucinations immediately, he has no mental power? Never mind the fact that he actually did do that multiple times, he can also resist Poison Ivy's pheremones, and pretty much any other mental "power" his enemies have.

What do you think would happen if we had a corrupt Batman on the loose? This is the guy who spends his free time rounding up dangerous criminals. That is his hobby. A bloodthirsty Batman would be the end of law in Gotham.

He was eight years old when his parents died, and you're chastising him for not having laid out a career path as a police officer by then?

I think Batman would have a severely difficult time of finding multiple people who could keep up with him on crime sweeps.
 

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Goku.

He's the main character, trump card, and deux ex machina all rolled into one. So many other characters could have developed after he died. Why didn't they just give us a few seasons of Gohan and the others fighting aliens? Like in Movie 9.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Bobba Fett

He gets like 30 seconds screen time, yet so many people nerdgasm over him.

He's a guy that didn't take precautions to prevent accidental jetpack discharge. The sarlacc pit feasts on the premature reckless.
If you go by the films yeah this makes him not so awesome.

But if you read the books he manages to break out of the Sarlacc's stomach... I mean seriously, that's badass.
 

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I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper) So why do so many people love him?
Political fancies aside:

- He has an unwavering stance on justice
- He stands firm in his principles to the eventual point of his death (SPOILER WARNING)
- He invented the Saw franchise (setting fire to Grice's apartment and giving him a dull saw to cut off his hand in order to escape)
- He is free and independent in every sense of definition
- He doesn't afraid of anyone

I like him. I like him alot. For his deficiencies, he has a lot going for him.

As for my pet hate character... I'm going with Wolverine. He's a reaaaaally shit boring character. Why is invulnerability (or close enough, the fucker got shot in the head in X2) an interesting character trait to witness?

Dr. Manhattan was invulnerable, but Watchmen was fucking great because the plot was far beyond the control of Dr. Manhattan to possibly intervene in.

Wolverines contribution is to punch/stab/punchstab people.
 

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Commander Shepard from Mass Effect.
Yes, I said it.
He's nothing more than an avatar for the player and on his own terms he utterly fails as a character, in fact he's probably one of the great non characters. When he converses with other characters it's THEM who do all the actual talking, all HE does is ask them questions.
Plus the way he flirts with some female characters seems more like grounds for being sued for sexual harrassment.

Don't get me wrong, he's still okay as these things go and I admit that I enjoy role playing in the Mass Effect universe. But I'm also not going to kid myself about Shepard as a character on his own terms.
After a while you have to notice that Shepard doesn't emote, he's just kind of a brick. The worst example of boneheaded emotionless dialogue for me personally was on Horizon where he finally reuinites with his star crossed lover Ashley Williams, they hug and she's all but about to break into tears after the two years of grief after his 'death'. He then opens with the brilliant line:
"It's good to see you Williams, how've you been?"

Seriously, great way to greet someone who loved you and spent two years in grief. Well done.

The badass ultra cool dude who sleeps with all the chicks and kills giant space robot cuttlefish is basically just a fourteen year old's interpretation of what is otherwise a total blank slate with no identity, personality or even set backstory.
He's just a blank slate that happens to have a lot of dialogue options.

EDIT: By the way for all the people talking about Masterchief:

He blew up the Halo intallation.
He grabbed a bomb, carried it out with him after jumping out of a space station in the middle of a fleet battle to plant said bomb onto an enemy frigate.
He killed the Prophet of Regret.
He destroyed the entire flood infection by activating a Halo ring in a zone beyond the rim of our galaxy and subsequently destroyed the Ark as well.

I'm just saying, dude's done stuff.
but, isn't master chief even more of a blank slate than shepard? plus shepard has done some pretty awesome things too...
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Bobba Fett

He gets like 30 seconds screen time, yet so many people nerdgasm over him.

He's a guy that didn't take precautions to prevent accidental jetpack discharge. The sarlacc pit feasts on the premature reckless.
^^This. when i was a kid i used to love em' but now looking back on him as a character, i realize that he leaves much to be desired.

At least his father Jango put up a decent fight again Obi-Wan in episode two.
 

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Arsen said:
Goku.

He's the main character, trump card, and deux ex machina all rolled into one. So many other characters could have developed after he died. Why didn't they just give us a few seasons of Gohan and the others fighting aliens? Like in Movie 9.
you got that right. Goku is just way too over powered, and (with the exception of Vegeta)totally over shadows the rest of the cast. I was especially annoyed with the end of the Majin buu saga, They spent so many episodes "preparing" Gohan to fight Buu, only to have him get his but kicked, and leave it to goku to save the day again.
 

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ShaggyEdiddy214" post="18.282034.11052460 said:
Batman.
For one thing even though Gotham was shitty I bet the idea of being a lawbringer never crossed him until his parents died.

Ummmm.....hmmmmm...he was EIGHT when his parents were killed.
 

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Boba Fett.
Ok, yes when I first saw him in Empire I thought he looked cool, but in Jedi, when it actually came time for him to do something, he was totally USELESS!! I mean he had ample opportunity to kill at least one of the heroes with his numerous weapons but he just ties Luke up with that stupid wire thing instead of you know, shooting him with his gun. If this guy is the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter then I shudder to think out much all the other suck.
 

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Commander Shepard,

No matter how you play him, the guy is a massive tool. If he used just a tiny bit of his extreme luck to actually proving the Reaper's existence instead of just pouting to the council and killing/blue-text-clicking random dudes for pocket change he might get some help in defeating a timeless and ancient evil which commits systematic extermination on a regular basis (keep in mind the only reason the cycle was delayed was because of pure luck and forward thinking of a different species).

When he is sent into a derelict ship to "investigate" it (mind you, the same ship which killed him and a large portion of his old crew just weeks ago) he can either go in wholeheartedly and be shocked when he is betrayed, or be sarcastic about it and then get angry when he is betrayed. He never questions orders and he lacks any survival instinct. He also doesn't see the problem with working with a clandestine group of racist and well funded terrorists who are at the same time incredibly inept and dangerous to all living beings. He may occasionally say he hates them, but he always works with them toward their goals no matter the choices you make.

The guy never thinks ahead, never uses strategy, never takes a calculated gamble, he just blunders into big situations and shoots things and talks with dudes until they get resolved, usually requiring a large portion of luck as well.
 

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Kitsuna10060 said:
Super Man
1) he's dumb, never seen him in kinda fight the required more thought an skill from him then 'punch with right, then with left' or, fly threw a wall when there's a perfectly good door he could use -.- but that's a brain function beyond him.

2) he's a over grown boyscout, on the one hand, yeah its fine, he's lawful/good, but on the other, he's the most powerful hero of the DC line up, and NO ONE fears him, at all, sure maybe the odd thug here or there, but by an large no one's scared of him, and to me, if your a good guy, no matter how strong you are, if no ones thinking twice about messing with you, your doing something wrong

3) -.- his weakness ... is a fucking rock ... really? REALLY?!?! that was the best they could come up with, a fucking ROCK, sure its green an it glows, still a rock -.- still really fucking lame
You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. But I'd like to add that he is TOO Super. Minus his one weakness (a rock) how can you hope to hurt/defeat/kill him? If he stops a bank robbery, its like using a surface to air missile to kill a fly. Sure, it'll work, but its overkill. Even when he does fight "powerful" foes, they don't compare to Superman. There's no real sense of danger or threat to him.

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Kira/Light Yagami

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.
People think he's in the right because he only kills criminals; well at first. He lost my support when he started offing people associated with the investigation.
He really lost any chance of getting it back when he killed his own father to cover his tracks
I think you missed the point. You were supposed to identify with him at first. And later, to realize just how far he's fallen. He still claimed to want to make the world a better place, but he had become so arrogant and corrupt that he was willing to kill everyone around him. Power corrupts as they say.

You mention him killing his father (he didn't but he sure wasn't upset about it), but I was more shocked when he considered killing his little sister. So yeah, he wasn't a bad ass. He was just an ass.
 

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I don't mind faceless characters so much, but voiceless characters really pisses me off. I'm supposed to be enjoying and being immersed in this story but for some reason (like that scene near the start of Matrix 1) I have no mouth and yet everyone is my best friend. I refer mostly, of course, to Mr. Gordan Freeman. This douchebag is loved by thousands, maybe millions, and yet never says anything ever, and I find it hard to like someone who has literally no personality.
 

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I'd probably have to go with Master Chief;
He has the personality of a dead weasel and has nothing likeable about him.
He's monstrously overpowered and I've yet to encounter any enemy in any of the Halo games which has a chance of besting him in a one-on-one.
He's predictable; kill everything to complete the objective. Not that hard considering he is effectively a tank with legs. Now if he were an ordinaryish guy doing that, it would be cool.
 

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Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.
 

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zombiejoe said:
Step 1: Pick a "badass" or "awesome"
Step 2: Say why they are not as cool as people think.

Mine, Cthulhu

why?

[spoiler/]Cthulhu was stopped in "Call of Cthulhu" by getting stabbed in the head by a boat. He didn't die, but it warded him off for a few eons. If a boat could keep him away for eons, how long would he need to wait after getting bombed?[/spoiler]

Your turn
This only stopped him because R'lyeh sunk and dragged him back down while he was reforming. If they had hit him with a boat anywhere else on the planet it wouldn't have stopped him for very long at all.

I agree that Cthulhu is in no way the nastiest thing in the Mythos however just the most well known.
 

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zombiejoe said:
Cthulhu was stopped in "Call of Cthulhu" by getting stabbed in the head by a boat. He didn't die, but it warded him off for a few eons.
Reread the story. The ship only slowed him down a little:

H.P. Lovecraft said:
There was a mighty eddying and foaming in the noisome brine, and as the steam mounted higher and higher the brave Norwegian drove his vessel head on against the pursuing jelly which rose above the unclean froth like the stern of a daemon galleon. The awful squid-head with writhing feelers came nearly up to the bowsprit of the sturdy yacht, but Johansen drove on relentlessly. There was a bursting as of an exploding bladder, a slushy nastiness as of a cloven sunfish, a stench as of a thousand opened graves, and a sound that the chronicler could not put on paper.

For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where - God in heaven! - the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.
 

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I want to say something controversial.....


Yoda is not awesome because under his leadership of the jedi, protecters of the Republic, a galaxy with relative peace ended up going to massive civil war and eventually was overthrown by a single Sith. The jedi were fine combatants, it must have been their leadership that let them slip.