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darkorion69

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Add together consenting adults and negotiated inequality with a clause that says you can stop BDSM play at any time via a safe word and I say it is fine.

I myself prefer to be the center of a V Open relationship with possible room for more lovers for anyone in the V, so the idea of threesome = abusive seems silly.

I think what people often mean when they say a threesome is abusive is this : One partner must be making the other partner have such threesomes, because no self respecting monogamous lover would agree to a threesome. They miss the fact that not everyone is monogamous. They miss the fact that too often monogamy stems from insecurity. Cheating is judged bad because it threatens loss of your lover to another person, for example.

Of course so many people refuse to analyze why they think alternative relationships models are 'wrong.' I think it is easier for them to condemn what they do not understand and what they are too insecure to experience. I wish they would try it before they decry it, don't you OP?
 

GoddyofAus

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I'm into it; nothing wrong with letting the Mrs. take control and have her way with you every now and then. Keeps things interesting.
 

Genericjim101

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Sure why not? I'd accidentally set up a pet/master dealio due to a misunderstanding but eh it's all fun at home.
 

jimClassic

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darkorion69 said:
Add together consenting adults and negotiated inequality with a clause that says you can stop BDSM play at any time via a safe word and I say it is fine.

I myself prefer to be the center of a V Open relationship with possible room for more lovers for anyone in the V, so the idea of threesome = abusive seems silly.

I think what people often mean when they say a threesome is abusive is this : One partner must be making the other partner have such threesomes, because no self respecting monogamous lover would agree to a threesome. They miss the fact that not everyone is monogamous. They miss the fact that too often monogamy stems from insecurity. Cheating is judged bad because it threatens loss of your lover to another person, for example.

Of course so many people refuse to analyze why they think alternative relationships models are 'wrong.' I think it is easier for them to condemn what they do not understand and what they are too insecure to experience. I wish they would try it before they decry it, don't you OP?
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THIS!
 

ReservoirAngel

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Nothing wrong with it if everyone involved is on board. I'm kind of fond of handcuff and blindfold play myself, so I don't judge people.
 

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Caligulas.dog said:
Blablabla ... consenting adults ... blablabla ... non of my business ... blablabla ... stay out of my lawn .... blablabla ...

No, really. I don't care.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.
 

Realitycrash

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I do enjoy hardcore bondage/domination. I dislike Sadomasochism, but I don't condemn it. That's all I have to say on the subject, since these things tend to get very infected very fast.
 

Mischa87

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There's a lot of misconceptions surrounding BDSM, even within the BDSM community. I will be using myself, and my friends/partners as examples where appropriate.

First off, the actual acronym, and the general concept of it.

From Wikipedia: "BDSM, is derived from the terms bondage and discipline (B&D or B/D), dominance and submission (D&S or D/s), and sadism and masochism (S&M or S/M). BDSM includes a wide spectrum of activities, forms of interpersonal relationships, and distinct subcultures."

People seem to associate BDSM with just the S/m aspect of it, which is only a fraction of the entirety that is BDSM.

People seem to be assuming if you engage in any of this, you engage in all of it. This is of course, silly, as with any part of any sort of relationship, there are variations and differences.

Another common misconception is that engaging in any part of BDSM, will involved someone getting hurt and or abused. Yes, there is a chance someone could be hurt, but education of the topic, and a good level of communication about your desires/limits, will help prevent this.

A great big fat misconception, even among the most avid kinksters is that BDSM is about sex. This doesn't have to be the case, I've known gay men who have been Dominants to lesbians. If that, or the prevalence of other match-ups like that doesn't disprove that BDSM is about sex to you, then I don't know what to tell ya.

For those who say as long as it stays in the bedroom, grow up. People flaunt their relationships all the time in public, what's the difference if someone's in a D/s relationship? You probably wouldn't even notice if you weren't in the know (And if you were knowledgeable about it, you'd probably be into it anyway)

BDSM (The D/s aspect of it specifically) Plays upon the natural Dominant/submissive nature of most people (And a big wave to the switches out there, I didn't forget you) It's basically taking our natural tendencies, and allowing ourselves to present as we'd like, and explore it in whichever way seems SSC (Safe, Sane, Consensual) Be this in the bedroom, in the home, or even in public (Like I said before, you're not likely to even tell it's a D/s relationship from casual observation) My best friend always gets comments on their collar by doctors, store clerks and the like. Not because they may or may not know what it signifies, but because it's a genuinely nice/cute accessory, despite what is represents.

A misconception about D/s relationships is that the submissive(s) have no control, that they have no say in anything, this is just not true, in any healthy relationship, be it business, kinky, or vanilla involves communication about what is desired out of it, and what they expect. A submissive person may be willing to submit to their Dominant, but that doesn't mean they give up their basic human rights to them (although, one totally could) With any sort of healthy BDSM relationship, there are safeguards, in the form of safewords, or similar practices. If the people involved are respectful of eachother's safety, the action will stop. As people have previously mentioned in this thread, it really does put the submissive in control in a sense (assuming it's a healthy relationship)

Actually, now that I think about it, most misconceptions of BDSM are based off of unhealthy representations of them (which I blame the media for) A healthy BDSM relationship can actually be SAFER than a vanilla one, as there has to be a hell of a lot more communication going on, and you HAVE to respect your partner(s) safety. Kinksters network well, and if someone's not playing nice, the whole community might know to veer away from them.

When it comes to S/m relationships, there's actually a few branches of it, physical S/m and emotional/psychological S/m. The physical one should be pretty self-explanatory, it involves vigorous stimulation of the masochist while aroused (This part is important, the while aroused part) The human body, while aroused can receive stimulation that would normally be unpleasant, or even painful, but it's now perceived as pleasure, extremely intensely in some people. This is entirely natural, and in my opinion is actually a survival mechanism from back in Monkey Times. Women giving birth can often recognize this, while giving birth naturally, the position of the baby inside often stimulates the G-spot, which leads to stimulation, and can make the whole process a lot less unpleasant. This has been attributed to the "high" women feel after this (Also, haha, many of you got your mom off, I saw via C-section myself)

Emotional S/m is a whole 'nother kettle of fish really, and like anything pertaining to the human mind, isn't all that understood. I honestly cannot provide much info on this, despite being an emotional masochist myself. All I can say is that some people just like to be mistreated.

With both of these forms of S/m (and any form of BDSM) it is very importiant to practice "aftercare"

From the Wipipedia: (Clever bunch we kinksters are eh?) "Aftercare refers to the special attention given to a bottom or bondage victim after a scene.

The intensity of emotion and the physical demands put upon the submissive can be extreme (which may be one of the attractions to BDSM for them) and careful attention is often needed to help them settle back to a more normal state.

If they have been in stringent or prolonged bondage, or have been flogged, they may have aching muscles or skin marks that require attention. Long periods of sensory deprivation may lead to disorientation.

Often, the first thing they will need is a drink of water, followed by a trip to the toilet. Lots of tender affection, cuddling and kissing will often comfort the person and improve their mental state. "

This is of course to ensure health, and a fulfilling experience for the people involved, as well as restoring one's sense of humanity (As this can often come into play in some of the more heated practices)

The reason I left the B/D part for last, is because I feel it ties in with the other parts of BDSM. Bondage for one can be used alone, which can be a helluva lot of fun in itself, even vanilla people practice this sometimes (fuzzy handcuffs anyone?) but it is often used with the D/s and S/m areas either to add to, via the interesting dynamic bondage entails, or enhance via the restraining aspect of it. (Personally, the more helpless I feel during a scene, the better) Which ties into whole D/s S/m bits very nicely (Just use your imagination people, you're on the internet, nothing is sacred anymore)

Discipline, like emotional masochism (they're quite related really) Can arise from, and be explored in many different ways. And like bondage, it can work stand alone, or be used to enhance the experience of other bits and pieces of BDSM.

I wish I could of covered more of this, but I'm no expert, and I've got stuff to do. I hope this submissive, zany, kinky, masochistic, pansexual transsexual has provided some insight into all of this (and not caused further confusion) There's tons of resources online you could look up if you're curious (Like the Wipipedia I mentioned)

Kinksters are just human sexuality/psychology nerds/geeks, we just know more about human sexuality than most, we're not monsters.

Have a good one, and stay away from the Goreans, that's not true BDSM, and it's often extremely sexist/homophobic/harmful
 

ultimateownage

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You might want to fix your spacing.

O.T. It's completely fine as long as it's consensual on both sides. What they do out of view of me is their own problems. As far as fetishes go, it's quite a kinky one.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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If the relationship is actually healthy and not codependent, then by all means indulge yourselfs thoroughly. Too much I have seen in the BDSM circles I used to frequent (voyeurism is an old hobby of mine) is that one side of the relationship tends to resent the other involved for going to far at some point whether its the influx of other non-committed people or "lets try this" gone too far.
Healthy moderation is the key, but don't forget that deep down (as if it is almost hardwired) human beings have a limit.
 

Warbandit

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Caligulas.dog said:
I basically agree with this, but what really bakes my crumpet is that "oh, only closet rapists/abused people really like that stuff!" You know nothing about it, so you can just as well shut the fuck up.
Cool, as I never said that.
I am in fact totally in favor of submissive girls.
I think he was referencing your post and agreeing to it, and then continuing OT with his own point, I don't think the stfu was aimed at you.

I could be wrong, though.

OT for me: I wasn't into BDSM at all, but my girlfriend enjoys light stuff immensely, so Ive grown accustomed to it as time goes on (I dom)
 

Nerdstar

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double posts, double Post every where...

in truth the idea appeals to me(but i'm i feel i'm much to nerdy and or socially awkward to have any kind of romantic relationship. read as shy)some of the stuff iv found iffy like anyone else not initiated into the world of the crop. but iv always loved the idea of a beautiful loving Dom in black leather(or any BDMSesq attire) but ultimately my experience with with the subject is limited to comics iv read about the subject and what iv heard but needless to say iv always been intrigued by the idea
 

ReverendJ

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My g/f is into a lot of stuff like this. While not particularly interested, I recognize that she puts up with a *lot* of my crap (915 hours of TF2, anybody?), so I'm down to play. Really, the tough part was breaking 25 years of "Don't Hit Girls" conditioning.
 

lord.jeff

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Mischa87 said:
Good post, thanks for taking the time to write it.

OT:I've been involved in some of the bondage communities and the people there are very friendly, nice, and are good about respecting space and limits, with the exception of the occasional super freak, and as far welcoming noobs they are one of the better groups to deal with.
 

Brandon237

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Dargocitfer said:
I imagine that many people here will agree with the first few posters and say that it's fine if that's what you're in to.

The average nerd/geek (into which category many gamers fall) has endured so much abuse and ridicule for their passions that we tend to be very Libertarian when it comes to things outside the "mainstream". At least, that has been my experience, and it's one of the reasons why I love "nerd culture".
Your second paragraph was so true... If only we could make everyone go through that kind of social ridicule for what they enjoyed, then we could all live happily ever after... In all seriousness, very true.
Although for me it has just been my knowledge, I know what most people would say is "way too much" about all things scientific, as for the gaming, people look at you funny if you don't own a games console and have parents with a steady income here :p

Oh, and OP: go ahead, it is your business, and if you are enjoying it and it is consensual then all's good, Although putting this on your shirt may attract weird stares:
"Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but Chains and Whips excite me".

Thomas Guy said:
but Whips and Chains excite me :)
You beat me to it :(
 

DeathWyrmNexus

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WolfThomas said:
I remember once a good mate of mine said he thought "oral sex was derogatory and abusive", that took me off guard especially because he wasn't religious.
DeathWyrmNexus said:
Let alone that common misconception clouds the biggest truth of BDSM. The submissive has all the power. They give the dominants the illusion of control and power when it could honestly be taken away at any time and they could just walk away.

It also gets mildly sexist as apparently BDSM is just a bunch of dudes into rape. *eyeroll* I personally loathe that mindset and I am sorry you have coworkers who assume that women are weak, have no kink, and never top.
Agreed, another thing thing those people misunderstand is the depth of understanding and trust the two people require.
A blow job is evil? My mind, it is blown... Sounds like he has a big sexism issue where he doesn't think women can make up their own mind on what degrades and abuses them. My wife would actually be annoyed if I denied her such things. :/
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Whatever floats your boat.

I personally find the idea of harming my significant other abhorrent.
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Myself, I think it's pretty messed up.

But two adults can do whatever they want, As long as they agree, I don't really care.
I agree with these. I don't like the idea, I don't really get why that would be appealing, I especially don't think it can really be healthy, and I would be concerned that such a thing could drift into other parts of the relationship.
That last part is my biggest concern, so as long as someone is not being actually abusive I guess he/she can do whatever. I prefer a bit more of a loving relationship in and out of the bedroom.

My opinion is about the same for "open relationships".
 

SweetNess_666

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Well. I am quite a huge fan of bdsm go to fetish nights as Vanessa (my alter ego) with my long term gf and mainly play the submissive role from light spanking to fully restrained and taking 100 canes to the backside. But Anywho like has already been said as long as its between 2 consenting adults I really really see no problem with it.....its aweeeesome :)