It just looks to me like 6 year old girls in there underwear fighting giant robots.
so no.
but feel free to make one, yaknow free speech 'n' all.
so no.
but feel free to make one, yaknow free speech 'n' all.
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That'd be great, but I'm still not sure the quality of discussion would improve if anime topics were isolated from the rest of the forum. The scope of discussion may be expanded, but that'd be it imo. And instead we'd have fan rivalry going on between threads 'Naruto sucks' etc.SecretTacoNinja said:
You miss the point. We can already jus not click on those threads. If I see a thread that says "Gonruki's final battle element" I'm obviously just going to ignore it. So why put up a whole forum? I mean, people talk about clutter, but most of those types of threads float on the first page for a few hours, and if not necro'd just stay down. Big deal. And how would you explain away a gaming webmag having a WHOLE FORUM devoted to anime? Why cater to the few, and where does it stop after that? We have a nice, simple, uncluttered layout, which is one of the main reasons a lot of people stay here. Why not keep it that way?[/quote]bells said:
Why not open a Section of the forum dedicated to "Movies and Animation" ? This discussion is all about Branding. And this is just silly... peopel come here not because of the "type" of forum, but because of the community. Who here thinks that the ONLY thing people around here care about is Games? There is already a section for subjects that have nothing to do with gaming... so why not open a space for people to discuss other things? Just put Movies and Animation (from any source) in the same place.
Because there is already an "Off Topic" forum, because this is a gaming webmag site. Why aren't you satisfied with keeping anime threads in Off Topic, where they should be? Why does it need it's own forum on a gaming webmagazine site?bells said:
I do NOT mean this as a flame post, but I personally dislike anime and would like a separate place where I know not to go. I'm also in favor of as many happy Escapists as possible, so if a lot of people want it, you've got my vote.
Because the Escapist has a wide audience and tends to the needs of that audience? Because the Escapist likes to expand its horizons and one day will not be just another gaming website but a website for all forms of media? What about because we want one?chronobreak said:
Try the actiony animes and manga, if ur just starting. Death Note too, even though theres alot of talking.Cpt_Oblivious said:
Throwing out a bunch of cookie cutter reasons ain't gonna work. The Escapist tends to its audiences needs quite well, if you don't think they do, why are you here? We have an off topic forum where people can discuss a wide range of topics, including anime.Sevre90210 said:
The Escapist already has articles, webshows, cartoons, I'd say it's horizons are pretty expanded. I don't think they are going to turn into an anime site anytime soon, but if you've heard something I haven't, I would like to know.
As for "we want one", a lot of people want a lot of things. There are plenty of good anime websites and forums out there where you can supplement your need, or as I stated before, you can have a great discussion in the off topic section.
What I really don't get about this whole thing is this: why are you so against just putting anime discussion in off topic? What is the big deal, and where do you propose drawing the line? What other kinds of forums should we make to cater to individuals? We have a nice, simple, uncluttered forum, one that sets us apart from other forums on the net, and until someone can answer why anime discussion NEEDS its own forum, I like the Escapist the way it is.
chronobreak said:
What makes you think its uncluttered? There are many posters who think it is cluttered because every week in Off-Topic we get around 10 interesting threads, and the rest are "Favourite" threads and other assorted threads about music/movies/TV/anime and modern life. My idea was to create a Media forum which would take the music/movies/TV/Anime threads away from Off-Topic making it less repititive.
If I can't get a Media forum, I'd still support an Anime one because it would give the moderate population of anime fans a place to go and other Escapists an easy way to dive into the world of anime. This isn't about what Anime NEEDS, its about what Off-Topic NEEDS and what the users want. Off-Topic needs to be less cluttered, users want to see an anime only forum to discuss anime or to take anime away from Off-Topic.
The Escapist is always changing, you may not have noticed, but we now have a WarCry corner, we've lost old video series and we've gotten new ones. Some people didn't want these changes to take place, what makes you any different to one of them or any more significant?
.Sevre90210 said:
I still don't see it as a need. Topics get repeated, suck it up and deal with it. You think if you have a media forum topics aren't gonna get repeated? You're not gonna see "What's your favorite show?" over and over again? Because you are. And I see a lot more than 10 interesting threads in Off Topic in a week. What I'm saying is media falls under the Off Topic section, there is no pressing need to change a thing. The site is running fine, we get a ton of new users, and I'm not gonna slap people in the face that have been here for a while, even longer than me, by changing the layout when they don't want to. If we could unanimolusly agree as a community, it would be one thing.
As you can probably figure, I'm very conservative, and I like the Escapist how it is, or else I wouldn't be here. As far as Warcry goes, I don't exactly know what it is, so I can't comment much, but was it created under the same circumstances? Was that needed to "unclutter" the forums, or was it a seperate feature Escapist tried to put in?
And, I still have to argue slippery slope and fairness here. If you can have your media section, can I have a sports forum to post in? Can I have a fashion forum? Travel? Why do you even need the Off Topic forum, why not just break everything into a category? Now, I know it's not that extreme, but we can either keep things the way they are, or get bogged down in semantics of other fans of other things wanting their own forums. This is why I'm saying it's easier and less time consuming to keep things the way they are now.
I've been on here a few times today, and I haven't noticed a single anime thread on the first page of Off Topic, by the way. This would also convince me there's no pressing need for an anime forum, as there isn't sufficient proff one would be used enough to warrant making one.
It was quite easy to figure out you are quite conservative, unfortunately I'm quite liberal so we're going to be at this for a while.chronobreak said:
Anyway, if you want a sports forum or a fashion or whatever you can request it and if enough people agree, maybe you'll get something like this. I haven't noticed a single thread in sports,fashion or travel today? Maybe its because fans of this will know they'll get flamed if they post by people saying "ZOMG,PLAY FiFA 10!" just like anime posters would get flamed by people saying "ZOMG, T3HYR3 C4rt00ns! LOL!". As you can see from the poll the amount of people who would use such a forum is quite sufficient and I'm sure plenty more people will be able to discover the world of anime through this. I doubt other fans would ask for more forums, perhaps a music forum? Maybe if we made a media forum that could be sorted out. I'm sure if the Escapist had the audience for sports,fashion,travel these forums would be made but I have never seen a fashion or a travel thread in Off Topic and its rare to see a sports one. I suppose it isn't my choice or yours to choose whether a new forum should be implemented though, so we'll leave this to the site admins.
Fair enough. I mean, I'm not going to leave the site or anything if an Anime forum went up, I happen to like Big O, BeBop, FLCL, and that stuff. As far as flaming goes, I bet people would just go into the anime forum to flame, not to mention the flaming among fans that's going to happen on any type of forum.Sevre90210 said:
As far as the poll, I don't know how many registered users are on the site, I'm sure there's a way to look it up, but I'm not sure everyone weighed in, and I would personally be hesitant to include it if there are over 100 people against it, and over 100 that may post every once in a while. That doesn't show me a demanding horde, it shows me apathy/not wanting it, and I wouldn't want to piss off the people that are very much against it. I don't feel it would be fair.
To me, it would be easier to just keep anime in Off Topic than pissing off fellow Escapists who don't want it. If the problem was not being able to post anime at all, it would be one thing, but you can do that already, there is no restrictions. If you're worried about getting flamed, maybe you just need to hit the report button more often, or have thicker skin.
But, you are right, if the admins want to do it, there's really nothing stopping them anyways, and I'm glad they took the time to listen to arguments from both sides before unstickying the thread. I think I'm going to leave this one alone for now for fear of repeating myself, I think I've made my objections clear. Thanks for not playing the "conservatives are the devil" card on me, by the way. I like talking to you liberals, what with your ideas and stuff.
I think this is actually a good idea, and should please both parties. Good job, Spinwhiz, maybe I'll stop in and see if you guys can recommend me something to watch.Spinwhiz said:Just so you guys know, I started a Anime User GroupFeel free to join up and start the chatting!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Anime-Fans-o