Poll: What's your opinion on Loli and Lolicon?

[Gigano]

SNIP

Poor them, having all those sexual thoughts over children. Boy, I sure do feel for them -_-

Hate is a defense mechanism.

Repulsion and alienation is too.

Evolution has given us tools to defend ourselves from perverted wastes of skin for a reason.

Because alienating and isolating paedophiles, making sure they have nothing left to lose by acting out their sick desires on real children is the way to go?

I trust we can all agree that the most - if not only - important thing is that actual children don't get hurt. Anything which helps that cause is good, and anything which hinders it is bad.

As for hatred, societal isolation, repulsion, and alienation, such are measures which will only serve to make the paedophiles in question indifferent to social norms, and rob them of incentives to not act on the dark desire he/she possess; therefore, I'm not for it. Punish them relentlessly if they do act, but do not help push them to do so...

As for "lolicon", it's currently unclear whether it motivates eventual molestation that would not otherwise have taken place (bad), or helps provide a harmless outlet for paedophiles for their twisted desire, thus preventing molestation that would otherwise have taken place (good). No studies have been made on this, and thus I for one reserves judgement on it for now. That it is subjectively disgusting has no say in this regard; only the fates of actual children matter.

Prevention and condemnation of actual harm is paramount; What is merely disgusting to most of us, who are however free not to seek it out, matters nothing. As usual, blind emotion gets us nowhere.

 

[The_Graff]

purely out of interest, who does drawn loli porn hurt? fair enough it may be weird but then an awful lot of peoples tastes are. until someone actually goes out, abducts a child and sexually abuses them, whats wrong with them fapping to their porn of choice?

 

[Ayumu Lan]

@ Fensfield -> Amen!

Any person who things "point of that book exposing how much of a fucking creep Humbert Humbert was" either didn't realize what he was actually reading or didn't read the book - at all.



Also it is somehow... well a little ignorant and -bluntly dumb- to argue that 'underage' people are not interested in sexuality at all. In fact, from scientific point of view sexuality actually can (often) develop pretty early. It's just that when we grow up most of us forget about those feelings. That is a proven fact, you might want to read it up if you are really interested in the subject. Nature made human females propagable at about age 12
So, yeah - a kid can have sexual desires and might - in rare cases - also feel attracted to an adult / much older person.
Problem is with all the low-life unprincipled males on earth the chance of abuse is pretty high so it is understandable why it's deemed a legal crime.


That aside, i think difference in age should be no barrier when it comes to real, honest love.
My grandfather for example was about 34 years(!) OLDER than my grandmother - he met her when she was 15. They somehow got married and they were the happyest married couple ever, until dead. Some might say "ew it's like marrying one's own grandfather" - but, to each his/her own.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Okay.

Go tell a mother whose had a child abused by a paedophile that they couldn't help it - they didn't choose to be that way. It's not their fault they were born with an urge.

Go tell someone who themselves has been abused.

Defending those that would turn children into sexual objects to be abused and raped is nothing short of appalling.

God, paedophiles have to be put in protective custody because even murderers and thieves want to kill them.

If ever there was a place for eugenics, surely it is here.

Why would I defend someone who chose to do that?

You can't choose what you like, but you can choose what you do.

You can control actions, not feelings.

If they actually abuse someone, then yeah they deserve everything they get, It's their own stupid fault for doing anything.

If you spend your entire life repressing it to make sure you don't do anything. Then that persons screwed up in an entirely different way because of societies view on them.

They could be the nicest person ever, and they like something that other people find wrong. What's fair in that?

 

[Jordan_17]

It's fucking messed up, in my brutally honest opinion.

If I heard correctly, the "loli" from "lolicon" comes from the novel Lolita (I think) which is about a peadophile raping a young girl numerous times... That's the main reason I think it's fucked up.

It seems that the people defending lolicon have mostly anime avatars... I'm not trying to say there's a link or anything, but maybe you have to know a little something about the more "Fucked up" side of Japanese (and possibly weeaboo) culture.

 

[Rabarberskurk]

ITT: some people have trouble separating fiction from reality.

No that's bullshit. Being into drawings of little girls in that way is pedophilia. It's like saying "I jerk off to cartoons of violent sex crimes. No I'm not into violent sex crimes at all."

You're scaring me.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

"Neciest person in the world"? "Other people find wrong"?

You disgust me.

I pray you never learn just how wrong it is.

/blocked

Way to run away...

You obviously were very confident in your opinion.

 

[Rabarberskurk]

ITT: some people have trouble separating fiction from reality.

No that's bullshit. Being into drawings of little girls in that way is pedophilia. It's like saying "I jerk off to cartoons of violent sex crimes. No I'm not into violent sex crimes at all."

You're scaring me.

I should clarify, that that's not like a quote from me or anything. Ha just an example. All I'm saying is attraction to underage girls doesn't suddenly stop being attraction to underage girls just because it's animation.

Depends. If said animation is trying to be realistic it's a totally different story because it's trying to simlulate child pornography, and that's just wrong. Most people who like Lolicon are attracted to certain art styles and not because of the fact that they might be underaged.

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

Sexual attraction to underdevloped girls... well not quite.

Add "cartoon" just before girls and you might be onto something.

 

[ANImaniac89]

It really creeps me out.
I have alway been uncomfortable with the idea of youth being made sexualized and how fundamentally wrong it is. I could see how someone who deals with pedophilia urges might use lolicon "artwork" as a means to avoid real life inappropriate interactions with minors BUT I also can see how it could also fuel that same sinister urge* in someone who would have never thought twice about children. Most of my exposer to lolicon comes from my brief time as a /b/tard on 4chan during which I had seen a few comics/images which I met with disgust and ultimately caused me to stop going on that wretched hive of scum and villainy known as 4chan /b/.
to me its just icky, it is the altering of a horrible and traumatic crimes into an idealized fantasy.




* It may not be very "PC" from me to call something that can be labeled as a mental illness as a sinister urge but the fact of the matter is pedophilia is evil and I'm not talking about evil from a religion stand point but from a point of knowing how bad a child's life can be ruined by molestation or rape.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

* It may not be very "PC" from me to call something that can be labeled as a mental illness as a sinister urge but the fact of the matter is pedophilia is evil and I'm not talking about evil from a religion stand point but from a point of knowing how bad a child's life can be ruined by molestation or rape.

Pedophilia in itself isn't evil.

It's feeling, you cannot define feelings with traits nor can you control them.

That act of molestation is evil and does ruin lives.

Just make sure you know the difference.