Rock music: A load of men screaming about their girlfriends

[freakonaleash]

Your right, Limp Bizkit is a great band.

 

[mojojowjow2007]

i agree with you as a whole but why condemn 12 year olds?
you were 12 once too you know. just because there a bit younger doesnt mean they are wrong. your probly starting to sound like your own parents without realising it.
also lighten up, if you like it then it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks.

 

[Flying-Emu]

Why do inferior musicans seem to prosper?

They're generally more willing to make teenybopper money-making music than actual art, so the record companies are willing to put more money into them to make them appeal to said teenyboppers.

Business!

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

On that topic title, I have this band called Tool in my playlist, and I can't think of a single one of their songs that contain any form of love. Same goes for Rage Against The Machine, mostly for Rise Against and mostly for System of a Down too. But I guess some mad rock fanboy will assault me and say "that's not rock, that's metal, whine whine whine" now.

And I have hip-hop artists in my playist whose songs don't contain any form of "I'm really rich and sniff cocaine, check out me hoes!", see how it works?

I'm sorry but this -^ is not a good generalization of rock music. Emo music maybe and even then there are some emo bands that aren't all about that. If you're going to do an accurate or at least close to accurate generalization then do it about country music.

It's accurate in the same way "All rap is bitchs and hoes!" is accurate.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

Uh sorry about that i stopped reading after i read all that rock hating and plowed on,i overly judge people who defend rap and hate on rock,just the way i am,should have read the whole,but i dont understand how you can say rock is about grown men screaming about their girlfriends then say you love Metallica and U2,just makes no sence,you off all people should understand

The title was intended to make people realise that these mass generelisations they make about groups on the radio are not true. I could turn on the radio now and hear MCR singing some shitty emo love song, however I know that the genre of rock n' roll has much more to offer, so do all of you. So, what I'm trying to explain is that it doesn't no make sense to judge a genre simply by what's big in the mainstream or what's being played on the radio. I don't actually believe "Rock is men screaming about their ex girlfriends" OR "Hip-hop is all about bitchs and hoes".

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

On that topic title, I have this band called Tool in my playlist, and I can't think of a single one of their songs that contain any form of love. Same goes for Rage Against The Machine, mostly for Rise Against and mostly for System of a Down too. But I guess some mad rock fanboy will assault me and say "that's not rock, that's metal, whine whine whine" now.

And I have hip-hop artists in my playist whose songs don't contain any form of "I'm really rich and sniff cocaine, check out me hoes!", see how it works?

As I said, I know there is rap that's not all about that, it's just that I don't bother with rap, due to the fact that it sounds horrible in my ears.

Though, hiphop can be good, but that's not exactly the same thing, from what I've understood.

Hip Hop is a genre made up of over 50 sub-genres. Rap is a vocal technique used within Hip Hop. Rap, as a genre, does not exist.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

I'm not sure how I thought this thread was going to turn out, but I really didn't think it would be like this. Ah wel, I don't know what it is, insecurity, fear, or just general ignorance but there seems to be something inside alot of people that keeps them condeming a whole genre.

As I said, I know there is rap that's not all about that, it's just that I don't bother with rap, due to the fact that it sounds horrible in my ears.

Though, hiphop can be good, but that's not exactly the same thing, from what I've understood.

As for people who have argued along the same lines as Psychosocial, fair play to you, I can't say I particularly enjoy listening to Screamo, this thread wasn't made to convert everyone to liking hip-hop, it was simply to show that making presumptions are silly. Some of you seem to know what it's all about, but just don't like the sound, which is fair enough, more power to you.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

On that topic title, I have this band called Tool in my playlist, and I can't think of a single one of their songs that contain any form of love. Same goes for Rage Against The Machine, mostly for Rise Against and mostly for System of a Down too. But I guess some mad rock fanboy will assault me and say "that's not rock, that's metal, whine whine whine" now.

And I have hip-hop artists in my playist whose songs don't contain any form of "I'm really rich and sniff cocaine, check out me hoes!", see how it works?

As I said, I know there is rap that's not all about that, it's just that I don't bother with rap, due to the fact that it sounds horrible in my ears.

Though, hiphop can be good, but that's not exactly the same thing, from what I've understood.

Hip Hop is a genre made up of over 50 sub-genres. Rap is a vocal technique used within Hip Hop. Rap, as a genre, does not exist.

I knew it was called rapping, but I always thought the more gangsta sort of hiphop was called rap, because that's what the people listening to it calls it. Guess they're all wrong.

Yeah, Gangster rap is called Gangster rap. It's a sub-genre of hip hop music, one of many. Nerdcore, Political, Jazz Rap, Trip Hop, Rapcore, and so on, there are many many more genres besides what you hear that permeates the mainstream airwaves, and it's just a shame more people don't get to hear it.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I do like some odd bands or atleast bands my friends have never heard of like Coheed and Cambria, Atreyu, Black Stone Cherry, Heaven Shall Burn, Scars On Broadway, Seether, Three Days Grace.

What kind of friends do you hang out with? I'd say most people know at least half of those. They even play them on the radio!

IRT Topic

A lot of people are just plain incapable to deal with the matter in a sensible way. I see pansies that hate anything that deviates from pure rock and metal, and I see the dumbwits that all they listen to is rap about bitches, drugs, and capping niggas' asses. No debating possible.

I just listen to whatever I feel like. Sometimes it's rock, sometimes it's rap, or other.

(Although the stereotype that all rock is a bunch of guy's singing about their ex-girlfriends is accurate a significant degree. It's been bothersome lately.)

There aren't any radio stations that play those bands in Ireland I've never ever heard them on the radio.
Also we have no Rock/Metal Radio station or atleast not any particular ones for a lot of genres to be honest.

 

[Srkkl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IObykt39Xsc If you're a fan of hardcore hip-hop, check me out, let me know if you like it. This is my video, I also produced the track.

Tsssk, tsssk, tsssk.

I don't know what you're getting at. Words would be helpful.

I don't think this is the right place to advertise.

 

[Chartic]

The problem with your analysis is that most of the genre is people doing what everyone hates, singing about the degradation of women and how great they are. I admit there are good rap artists out there but the majority aren't

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

The problem with your analysis is that most of the genre is people doing what everyone hates, singing about the degradation of women and how great they are. I admit there are good rap artists out there but the majority aren't

Why can no one listen to what the OP is saying?

You are generalising. Generalising is what people do when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. I can safely assume you haven't listened to most of the genre of hip hop, and perhaps you should listen to more before you make such a statement.

 

[minignu]

All the rap/hip-hop I've heard sound virtually the same, with the exact same lyrics thrown into a blender and all the proper English removed. Every single song has that "Fat Beat" which consists of one or two bass notes being repeated over and over again mixed in with some clapping. I don't see anything to like in the genre. And if you think all rock is about men crying about their ex-girlfriends, you haven't listened to very much of it.

ITT: minignu doesn't read the OP.

Um... I didn't write that. I really, really like hip hop.

For another example of less generic hip hop, I present The Roots (amazing live by the way)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAkQvVqrV9s

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

All the rap/hip-hop I've heard sound virtually the same, with the exact same lyrics thrown into a blender and all the proper English removed. Every single song has that "Fat Beat" which consists of one or two bass notes being repeated over and over again mixed in with some clapping. I don't see anything to like in the genre. And if you think all rock is about men crying about their ex-girlfriends, you haven't listened to very much of it.

ITT: minignu doesn't read the OP.

Um... I didn't write that. I really, really like hip hop.

For another example of less generic hip hop, I present The Roots (amazing live by the way)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAkQvVqrV9s

Amazing group, one of my favourite of all time. I'm going to embed that.

 

[Epifols]

I do like some odd bands or atleast bands my friends have never heard of like Coheed and Cambria, Atreyu, Black Stone Cherry, Heaven Shall Burn, Scars On Broadway, Seether, Three Days Grace.

What kind of friends do you hang out with? I'd say most people know at least half of those. They even play them on the radio!

IRT Topic

A lot of people are just plain incapable to deal with the matter in a sensible way. I see pansies that hate anything that deviates from pure rock and metal, and I see the dumbwits that all they listen to is rap about bitches, drugs, and capping niggas' asses. No debating possible.

I just listen to whatever I feel like. Sometimes it's rock, sometimes it's rap, or other.

(Although the stereotype that all rock is a bunch of guy's singing about their ex-girlfriends is accurate a significant degree. It's been bothersome lately.)

There aren't any radio stations that play those bands in Ireland I've never ever heard them on the radio.
Also we have no Rock/Metal Radio station or atleast not any particular ones for a lot of genres to be honest.

Hmm, interesting. We have whole stations devoted to modern rock stuff and metal.

Like this one, you can actually even get a listen.
http://www.93x.com/

 

[dnnydllr]

The problem with your analysis is that most of the genre is people doing what everyone hates, singing about the degradation of women and how great they are. I admit there are good rap artists out there but the majority aren't

Why can no one listen to what the OP is saying?

You are generalising. Generalising is what people do when they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. I can safely assume you haven't listened to most of the genre of hip hop, and perhaps you should listen to more before you make such a statement.

It's not generalizing when it's virtually true with all of the hip-hop that I've heard. And yes, I have heard quite a lot of it.

 

[Joshimodo]

rock music is men with half their face covered by hair crying about their ex girlfriend.

That's not rock.

That's tween pop crap.