UPDATED!!!! Is she being selfish to want a baby??

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Uberpig

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Pirate Kitty said:
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I never said it was a good idea or that I supported her in any way.

I said she isn't doing anything legally wrong and that it was her choice to stop taking her birth control.

Love it or hate it, she has the right to do what she is doing - however silly it seems to most of us.
You seem to be confusing "having the ability to do something" with "having the right do something."
I have the ability to go on a killing spree, it's my choice. Doesn't mean I have the right to do it.
It is her legal right to stop taking the pill and to get pregnant. She has no legal obligation to tell her partner.

It is not your legal right to go on a killing-spree.

Her actions are morally questionable and very unlikely to end in a positive outcome (given the information we have) but it isn't illegal.
Misread what you said, thought you meant she had the moral right to do it. You're right, she's not acting illegally, just immorally.
 

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Its her choice... but I think tricking her boyfriend is a very hurtful thing to do, I very much want a child of my own but I would feel betrayed if I had a girlfriend who secretly stopped taking contraceptives in order for me to impregnate her. It could easily destroy their relationship. They should wait until they have finished uni and he has a secure job.
 

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Why the hell are you all blaming HER for jeopardising the guy's future by saddling him with kids and ruining his chances at college...

...when he's sleeping with her without using a condom?

Seriously fellas, I don't give a shit what your partner/girlfriend/fuck-buddy tells you. If you don't want kids, or aren't ready to have kids, WRAP IT UP. It's YOUR responsibility, if children would mess up your life, to make sure none of your swimmers make it to home base.
You do realise there's more than one contraceptive in the world right? The OP said, she's on the pill and wanting to/going off it without telling the boyfriend.
How many contraceptives can GUYS use? Because I was talking about the GUY. Maybe you'd know that if you'd actually bothered to READ my post.

Seriously, it's like none of you people realise that the number one cause of pregnancy is putting your penis in a woman's vagina.
Yeah I have read your post. What you neglect to realise is that you don't need to use a condom when you and your partner agree she takes the pill. If she wants to stop taking the pill, that's perfectly fine, but she can inform her partner so he can start using the condom again. Blaming the guy for not using a condom when the girl says she's using something else that makes the condom essentially useless is either you trolling (likely by seeing your previous post that earned you a well deserved probation) or somehow (and I really don't understand the mechanics of it) widely missing the point.
 

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You want the truth?

Your friend is a fucking idiot. She's had barely enough life experience to land a long-term job, I'm guessing, and she wants a damn child? This sort of thing should be reserved into their late twenties/thirties. Children before that is ridiculous.

How long did you say the couple have been together, nine months? Yeah, that's not long-term. And she went off the pill without him knowing? Then she is merely a manipulative *****.

That's my two cents, anyway.
 

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Why is all the blame put on the girl? The guy is spineless and can't make a decision. Likely scared he'll loose her and says he's ok with accidental pregnancy.

I don't think they should have kids, but if he's just going to let her do what she wants then that's their problem. Be a good friend give your 2 cents and let them do what they want as stupid as it may be. It work itself out. I think most people don't plan pregnancy anyways.
 

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I think she is being a bit selfish, they have not been together long enough to have a baby together, and should finish their education and get a good stable job before thinking about having a baby. She should not lie to her partner as nothing good would ever come out of it. You should talk to both of them,see if you can put a stop to it, in my opinion, it can't end well if she is deceiving him like that. she has put you in an awkward position aswell and that is not fair on you, so talk to them, but don't get too involved with it yourself
 

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Stupid and selfish.

But hey, if she does get pregnant just falcon punch her stomach.

It works everytime.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Yeah deciding to stop taking the pill and not telling him is not a good idea. Haven't you seen She's Having a Baby?
 

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*sigh*... My mate has just left, and im at a loss of what to say or do now so i'll ask you guys.

My mate is 19, same as me though will be turning 20 in December. She is in a long term relationship with a great guy, they've been together for 9months now and he's just turned 20 this month.
She came to me confused as she's decided she wants a baby and knew that i do also so thought i could help. Her partner is willing for kids as is mine, but, like mine, he wants to finish his Uni course and get a full time job. He told her he'd be happy if she fell pregnant, but scared at what it could do to them. She however already has it all planned out.
She's even more confused because he sleeps with her even when he knows she isnt protected, and isnt phased when she jokes on about might being pregnant.

Here is my dilemma...

She's on the combined pill, and has decided to stop taking it, and let nature take its course. He doesnt know about it and she doesnt want to tell him as she thinks he might leave her or reject any child that might come of it. Obviously she's asked me to keep it secret but i dont want to see him get hurt as a result of it. I love both of them like family, and i dont know what to do... Yes i can see she has it worked out in a way that would probably work for them both, but im not sure she realises the emotional and physical strain a baby will do to him during his last years of Uni...

Ive decided to ask you all this as i know there are adults and probably broody teens on here who can tell me what i should do, or at least persuade her she's being unreasonable and unfair to him at this time. Or maybe im just paranoid =/

EDIT: Failed to mention they're living together also in a 2 bed flat.
She has no right to play with you friend's future. He's 20 fucking years old! I would kill her for doing that to me.
 

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1)watch idiocracy
2)decide what's best according to your new-found experience.

i kid, i kid.
You should really just talk some sense into that woman.
 

ezeroast

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9 months is not a long term relationship.

Ultimately its both of their choices but i would suggest living life a bit before jumping into something that will rule the way the entire rest of you life will play out.

And if she stops taking the pill without telling the guy she is fucking evil

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The Scythian said:
Nothing? Her life, her choice.
What about his life?
and what about the babys life?

JoJoDeathunter said:
Its her choice... but I think tricking her boyfriend is a very hurtful thing to do, I very much want a child of my own but I would feel betrayed if I had a girlfriend who secretly stopped taking contraceptives in order for me to impregnate her. It could easily destroy their relationship. They should wait until they have finished uni and he has a secure job.
No its not her choice
 

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She's basically trapping the guy.

That's evil and despicable.

Also fucking selfish.

"It's her choice!", that's such a stupid viewpoint. It's her choice to trap the guy, and bring a baby into a relatively unstable environment at a bad time? Nice...
 

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If she is basically tricking her boyfriend into knocking her up, then she is not mature enough to be a mother. She should break up with her boyfriend, concentrate on school and not even think about another relationship until she is old enough to make a mature decision about life-changing event.

I would tell her boyfriend immediately about what she is doing. If she does become pregnant as a result of her immaturity, he will also have to live with the consequences. He will be forever tied to an emotionally immature girl by a baby he never wanted, for which he will have to provide financial support for at least 18 years. I would tell him about her scheme, advise him to break up with her, and never speak to her again.
 

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Bad move, for two major reasons.
One, I think it's way too early to consider having children. Apart from the fact that it could well be kinda cruel, as you don't have a secure job or a nest egg or whatever, it's a huge commitment. Especially since it seems her boyfriend isn't really ready for children.
Two, the big one, is that it's underhanded, deceptive, and frankly, really selfish. If she talks it over with him, and they decide, by all means they can go for it. However, if her boyfriend is under the impression that she can't get preganant, for good reason, and she doesn't tell him the situation changed, because she knows he'll do something about it, then she isn't telling him for entirely selfish reasons. And this goes beyond "I didn't tell you about the cupcake cause I wanted it". Seems to me that this will be something like "I'm gonna have to stay at home to care for the baby you unwittingly fathered, so you'll have to quit Uni and get a better paying job for us". Not cool.
Basically, tell her to tell her boyfriend. If she doesn't, you tell him.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Pirate Kitty said:
It is her choice to stop taking birth control.

Legally she has done nothing wrong.

Yeah, her actions could hurt people, but it is still her choice.

I'm not endorsing the behavior - I think it's a terrible idea.
The moment her actions can pretty much destroy 2 lives it's no longer "her choice".
Doesn't matter how much you dislike it, hun, it is still her choice; there is no law against not taking birth control and failing to tell a sexual partner.
Depends on where you live. In Australia, lying about not using birth control, be it pills or a condom, is illegal. Best case scenario; the father accepts repsonsibility. Worst case; he takes the matter to court, and sucsessfully renounce all claims to the baby, including child support.

Worst worst case scenario; he chooses to go to the police, and it becomes a rape charge.


also, I do rather love the double standard here. what if the roles were reversed, and the man secretly started not using condoms? you'd cry foul so fast we would even have time to say "dr Phil".
 

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Shes being a twat tell her to pull her head out of the clouds and not destroy whatever chance of a future she or he might have, heres whats a 20 year old is not going to do stay with a single child, have a future, earn good amounts of money, be happy. Not going to happen he's either going to bolt at the moment she tells him, ask her to abort the thing or live an utterly miserable life because she could not be arsed waiting 10 years.