Is marriage worth it?

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Sneaky-Pie

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I feel like I have quite a valid opinion on this topic as I'm going through a Separation with an inevitable Divorce at the end.

I met my wife in high school. Before you even say "well that's your problem, high school relationships never work out!" Let me tell you this.

1. Before I even asked her to marry me, we were together for six years. During four of those years, we maintained a long distance relationship. Only a couple months after we started dating, I got the news that my family was moving roughly 200 miles away. Two of the four years that distance went up to 500 miles because we both went to different universities.

2. For one year she actually lived with me and my family due to horrible family issues on her side. I was at my university for some of this time, but in the end, I ended up seeing her everyday, sometimes even 24 hours at a time constantly, for easily 10+ months (total amount over a period of time). Not once did I ever get sick of that. Easily the best time when we were dating.

3. She actually ended up attending my university for the remainder of those six years before we got married.

I will admit, the first mistake we made was getting married while we both were still attending university, but we were young and thought everything would be fine. And it actually was for awhile. I ended up losing my job about a year later due to economic cutbacks. This was the start of everything going downhill. About three weeks later, my wife tells me that she doesn't love me anymore and leaves. Her excuse? "I want to live life, have fun, and see other people." She also claimed that six months after we were married she began feeling this way and decided NOT to tell me that she was having these feelings until six months later, the day she leaves (communication is key, kids).

So she left. You can imagine how I probably was. Complete and utter shock. I loved this woman deeply. I was always faithful and loyal to her and never once stopped loving her. I was literally dumbstruck. I pleaded with her for us to try and fix it, for us to go get counseling, for us to try just anything. She refused. I never once had any inclination that we were having those problems to begin with. Don't get me wrong, we fought like any other couple did and I know that I was never perfect, but she never made any hints that she was feeling a different way towards me. Did I mention that she left me three days before my birthday?

I soon find out that only three weeks after she left, she meets, dates, sleeps with, and moves in with another guy. In only three weeks. I do have prove that she met him during this time and they did not know each other beforehand (she never did change the password to her email account).

I live in South Carolina and the interesting thing about SC law is that a couple must be separated for at least one year before a divorce can be filed (unless there was infidelity or abuse). As of right now, it has been ten months since she has left and I still have two months to go before I am forced into a divorce I never wanted. I was never given the opportunity to try and fix my marriage and am basically being dragged along and forced to give in to what she wants. To this day, I'm still not even really sure why she even left... or even why she married me in the first place.

But here's the kicker. I still love her. Deeply. I have even told her several times over the past ten months that I'm still willing to try and work things out even though it's rejected every time. You think I'm crazy and foolish right? I'm not, why? Because when I asked her to marry me I knew and wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. That I would never leave her and always remain faithful. Despite what she has done, I have still been faithful and loyal to her, even if she may not deserve it. I'm still her husband and pride myself in staying true to the vows I made to her. I never understood what the term "Unconditional Love" meant until this happened to me. If she called me up right now and told me that she wanted to try and make our marriage work, I would say yes. More than likely, however, that will not happen and I will be getting a divorce.

Ugh, I hoped I wouldn't get emotional when writing this out, but what can I say, I'm an emotional guy.

Wow, that's quite the wall of text.

So what's the point of all this?

The point is that I loved that one year of my marriage and while things won't probably work out, this horrible event will not change the way I view marriages. I will hopefully remarry again, that is if I find another great girl to marry. Simply put, that one year of marriage was the single most enjoyable year of my life. Don't let the horror stories dampen your view of it. Marriage is truly wonderful. Just make sure you have the right person to be married to. I thought I did, and I still want it to be that person, but some dreams just don't come true.
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
marraige is both a holy union and test of love and patience.sadly,people have little patience and understanding,making most marraiges end in divorce.but if you truly love the person,it's worth taking that chance.

EDIT: on second thought,maybe you shouldn't be asking random morons on the internet(self very much included)about something like this
Two good points there.
 

Kikosemmek

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If I love a woman, or many of them, I will do my best to spend time being around them, and being a good lover. I do not see where a covenant not unlike a business contract comes into the equation, especially when it means the government steps into my personal life.

There's love, and then there's marriage.
 

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my 1st post somehow got eaten... ok, repeat then!

EmileeElectro said:
I'd get married for a few reasons.
Less tax to pay (i think :?)
Changing my last name, no link to my dad anymore)
And... If we break up I'll keep the house. Woohoo!

you realize that you are the reason this thread was started... and probably why most marriages are doomed to fail in general...

Seriously people, marriage is suppossed to MEAN something!

>.<
 

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just to give you a little hope:

I don't care who makes the most money,

I pay my part, if I can't? Well I do house chores, I'm a pretty good cook actually.

Alimony is shit, I'm a women and as a women I'm perfectly capable of standing on my own. You should own up to what ever spawn your sperm creates though.

I don't mind my boyfriend going out with friends and I don't stalk/harrass him when he does.

I do activities he likes with him because I want to know about him and what better way then seeing/experiencing what he likes?

I don't live in the self-created world where pretty girls stopped being attractive just because my boyfriend and I are exclusive,

I'm not jealous but I HATE YOU SCARLETT JOHANSON! (jk)

and the best part? I'm not an exception, they are a lot of us out there, be more picky... And marriage shouldn't feel like a funeral... if it does, then maybe you're not marrying the right person lol
 

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Marriage sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. A ton of assholes whine about how its entrapment to be stuck with one person to have sex with for the rest of you life, but really, how much can one vagina differ from another. I believe in divorce but I also think that it has gotten so socially exceptable that people stop thinking through their marraige because they've taken the mentality that in case it turns out that they really don't like this person they've been dating for six months, they can always get a divorce. The thing is that, that idea gets bumfucked when the people have their first two kids and THEN realise they don't like each other. I'm not married, but I certainly have expectations for any future spouses I may have. For one, they can't keep their last name. I'm going to let them know how hard it was for me to carry on the family name. I happen to be the only male in my family to have my surname, and it was just bad luck that I came out all socially awkward. They're not going to screw up all my hard work just because they want to keep their haritage. Screw that, my heritage is the only one that matters.
 

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Another thing. Marriage is meant to be a TEAM effort. It will undoubtedly fail if only one is pulling the weight the entire time.

As I stated in my post earlier (a little bit further up) one can only do so much if the other flat out refuses to do anything at all.
 

Lizmichi

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I kinda of laugh at this because my fiance (me being the chick in this relationship) doesn't want me to have to work or have to pay for anything; something I fully don't agree with. I want be be able to support my family and him even if he doesn't want me to. I'm just as much a part of supporting a family as he is regardless of the fact he wants to take care of me. I'm more then fully capable of taking care of my self.
Not all women will push to take as much as they can from men, however, I have seen women take all that they can just to hurt the guy but saying well take your house and your money in all divorce cases is untrue. I won't ask for money if my fiance and I get divorced and hell if I care if he gets the house; I can get an apartment. Yes I would agree that people rush into marriage too soon now a days.
 

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So...your reason that marriage doesn't work is that...women are screwing over men?

Oh geez.

The reason marriage doesn't work is that these goddamn kids aren't waiting long enough to get married. There is such a damn hurry they get married too fast and end up hating each other.

In a MATURE relationship--couples CAN agree to do things equally. If there's love, there's no question of this 'house slave' business.

In an insecure and immature relationship, you have that kind of whining. That's why people should have those discussions before they get married. Not after.

When our parents and grandparents were kids--they were definitely more mature. They lived in the war eras. WW2, Cold War, Korea and Vietnam.

This whole idea that you can blame failed marriage on one gender is just stupid. What you CAN blame it on is the immaturity of young people today. And now that divorce is very acceptable, you're actually seeing how much married couples don't like each other--unlike in the past where no one got divorced often and stayed together because of family/religion/kids.

Why would you ever think that a husband comes in last place to his wife? Are you married? Because, if I got married--I would think my husband would be more than just someone who brings home a second paycheck.

JaredXE said:
Why do people keep saying that marriage gives you regular sex? That's so not true it isn't even funny. Many women today are taught, whether implied or explicitly, that sex is a tool to get men, and once you get them and pop out a little 18-year annuity or two, then they don't have to ever have it again.
Just like women are taught that all men want from them is sex. And saying that unmarried, immature, college-aged men frequently prove that correct isn't sexist either.
 

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Ive spent four years with my wife. two years married. The first woman I ever really dated. We are expecting our first child within 3 months. I have not had sex in ... 6 months now. I had to get antidepressants after dating this girl for 3 months. However our marriage is fucked up because yes, she works full time like me. Yes she gets paid more than me. But she works for her father, and she spends 90% of her day sitting on a stool. I am givin 2 15 minute breaks a day and a one hour lunch. And I work at a meat department.


I am going somewhere with this yes.

I am accused of not fulfilling my end of the chores around the house. Dishes dont get done unless I do them. god forbid someone else mow the lawn. and add to that the hundred other things I do that just piss her off for no logical reason.

And I still believe in marriage. Im miserable, but I would not be able to live with myself if I left my wife and my daughter because I have a difference in opinion of what chores are done by who and how much work me or her do compared to each other. It saddens me that the sex evaporated faster than common sense in a zombie movie. And its frustrating to listen to my wife complain that her ass hurts from sitting on it all day when im cooking fucking dinner after working for 9 hours.

... It occurred to me that im making a lot of points against my marriage. So Im gonna stop.

Back to the point, Is marriage worth it? If there is sex, fairness in work and home. and No cheating. Then yeah. It is. Plus it helps to be married to someone you actually like as well as love.
 

dodo1331

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I used to want to get married, and still kind of want to, but I don't like the sexism around being married. Want your wife to make you a sandwich for lunch at work? No, screw you, you're going to make a sandwich for her because if you don't you're sexist. The statistic that the OP pointed out about 55% of women cheating shocks me; there's always been a big stereotype around men being the people who cheat. But no, you can't point that out in public because if you do you're sexist.

Besides, I've only met one girl who I would actually want to spend the rest of my life with, and she currently lives about 5 states away from me.
 

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dodo1331 said:
Besides, I've only met one girl who I would actually want to spend the rest of my life with, and she currently lives about 5 states away from me.
if this is an internet friendship/relationship thing, it's not the same as dating and being around someone all the time.
 

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I think marriage for most people is simply a novelty that has little meaning to them and divorce is too easy to obtain. I've been together with my partner now for 3 years. We know each others pet peeves and we also have the occasional argument. But they are things we constantly work out and talk through. I love everything about him and plan to marry him eventually.
 

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Alright... here is what I have to say.

Marriage can work out. Sadly, I have only seen one marriage work out. My grandparents'. And this is not their first marriage. But they have been married since before I was born (im 21) and they are still going strong. My mother got married twice and divorced twice. So I do not have a good outlook on marriages.

One thing I have learned though that you shouldn't rush these things. I was engaged to be married about 7 months ago. We got together in June of 2006, I moved in with him in July, and then we got engaged in August. It was very rushed. We stayed engaged until he left me New Years Day of this year. He immediately rushed into a marriage two weeks after he left me. After all that, I learned that you need to really think about marrying someone and wait until you are both ready. Don't rush something like that.

Despite all that, I do want to get married someday. The thought of someone loving me for the rest of my life is something I want. Sure the thought of divorce scares the crap out of me but what is life without risks?
 

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After watching many lives, including my own, get fucked up through marriage and divorce, there are some days I'm glad that it's illegal for me to get married.

It's very difficult to make a marriage work for years on end... it takes two very special people who truly and completely love each other. And, even at that, you'll still be really sick of each other after a while xD
 

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I never plan to get married. Why would I want to practice a tradition that is based in a religion I don't believe in. On top of that, and maybe its a tad naive, I'm still a young college guy after all but I don't think I need an institution telling me my love is recognized. I realize there are tax benefits and things along those lines but once again money means so little to me I just wouldn't care. And prolly the main reason I'm against it is like I mentioned earlier I'm a young college guy, any long term relationship is out of the question for me. Not only would I like to experience as many different women as possible I'd also really like to join the Corps and do as much traveling as I can.

It might seem selfish and I honestly don't care, no women has held me down longer then a few months and I like it that way. Maybe one day I'll find the love that will put me in my place but for right now that day seems rather far away.
 

Nurb

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Grand_Poohbah said:
Nurb said:
You've only seen one marriage not end in divorce? Highly illogical.
actually two... on my dad's side. I dunno much about extended family, but all of the cousins on my mom's side that got married are divorced now, on my dad's side my cousins haven't been married very long yet

historybuff said:
So...your reason that marriage doesn't work is that...women are screwing over men?

Oh geez.

The reason marriage doesn't work is that these goddamn kids aren't waiting long enough to get married. There is such a damn hurry they get married too fast and end up hating each other.

In a MATURE relationship--couples CAN agree to do things equally. If there's love, there's no question of this 'house slave' business.

In an insecure and immature relationship, you have that kind of whining. That's why people should have those discussions before they get married. Not after.

When our parents and grandparents were kids--they were definitely more mature. They lived in the war eras. WW2, Cold War, Korea and Vietnam.

This whole idea that you can blame failed marriage on one gender is just stupid. What you CAN blame it on is the immaturity of young people today. And now that divorce is very acceptable, you're actually seeing how much married couples don't like each other--unlike in the past where no one got divorced often and stayed together because of family/religion/kids.

Why would you ever think that a husband comes in last place to his wife? Are you married? Because, if I got married--I would think my husband would be more than just someone who brings home a second paycheck.
did I say blame women for anything? No. I pointed out double standards when it comes to expected roles, and how one gender isn't allowed to have anything asked of them, they choose what they want to do, men still more or less locked into obligations they've traditionally had and women openly still want that and more. I also pointed out how marriage is more of a risk for men because of divorce court treats divorce like a punishment for the husband.

this isn't "blaming divorce on women", its stating facts that make myself and other men bitter towards taking the plunge in the first place.

Just like women are taught that all men want from them is sex. And saying that unmarried, immature, college-aged men frequently prove that correct isn't sexist either.
Oh ho ho, that's where you're really wrong. College girls are eager little hornballs just as much as the boys, so lets not pretend all those "mature" gals are in their dorms studying. Hell, while I've had my internships out in LA after college, 20 something women have a blast being single and sleeping around as much as the guys there too. It's when they're 27-30's, that they think they become mature because they suddenly want to settle down. THEN all the men become immature because they aren't falling all over them like they were when they were 10 years younger.
 

dodo1331

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Nurb said:
dodo1331 said:
Besides, I've only met one girl who I would actually want to spend the rest of my life with, and she currently lives about 5 states away from me.
if this is an internet friendship/relationship thing, it's not the same as dating and being around someone all the time.

Yup. I know. She moved away, and I broke up with her for some reason because I didn't think I could handle a long distance relationship. I really regret doing that.